LL
BBC London also led with the body image protesters in Hyde Park.
I thought the ITV News London bulletin was cancelled today due to rolling coverage of the Royal Baby on ITV?
London Lite
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Cheers. I caught a few minutes early on of the 6, but they were in the midst of some protest over skinny models.
BBC London also led with the body image protesters in Hyde Park.
I thought the ITV News London bulletin was cancelled today due to rolling coverage of the Royal Baby on ITV?
SD
Sorry - didn't realise ITV cancelled the local bulletin yesterday. I checked the ITV london website and noticed several different stories including the tourism thing and the BT tower.
On another note I noticed LL slipped in a cheeky 15 minute shopping feature into primetime last week despite giving Ofcom assurances last year that they wouldn't. In addition Ofcom still haven't responded to the whole issue of what constitutes original programming. Last month LL's original programming commitments increased to 9 hours per day. At the moment they manage 6 on weekdays and just 2 on weekends.
On another note I noticed LL slipped in a cheeky 15 minute shopping feature into primetime last week despite giving Ofcom assurances last year that they wouldn't. In addition Ofcom still haven't responded to the whole issue of what constitutes original programming. Last month LL's original programming commitments increased to 9 hours per day. At the moment they manage 6 on weekdays and just 2 on weekends.
MA
BBC London also led with the body image protesters in Hyde Park.
I thought the ITV News London bulletin was cancelled today due to rolling coverage of the Royal Baby on ITV?
Even if the regional news hadn't been cancelled, 90% of it would have consisted of; "....and thousands of people in the [insert your area name here] region are celebrating the birth of the latest royal baby"
Cheers. I caught a few minutes early on of the 6, but they were in the midst of some protest over skinny models.
BBC London also led with the body image protesters in Hyde Park.
I thought the ITV News London bulletin was cancelled today due to rolling coverage of the Royal Baby on ITV?
Even if the regional news hadn't been cancelled, 90% of it would have consisted of; "....and thousands of people in the [insert your area name here] region are celebrating the birth of the latest royal baby"
LL
London Lite
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Vanessa Baffoe is again presenting on a Sunday. I really hope she's not the permanent presenter every week?
TV
Lives from Jessica King throughout lunchtime from the Lindo and a 6.30 report with really poor long shots of Wills, Kate and the baby.
Christ. They'd have been better off just using agency stuff like PA/AP or whatever they use if the only stuff they can get themselves is of inferior quality. I just highlights their flaws and lack of resources even more. No Bank Holiday news again is very poor. This time last year they were doing two extended London Go shows on the Bank Holiday if I remember correctly (I remember one of them coming from the Spanish festival on Southbank I think?) but this year they don't have anything at all local news wise? It's becoming embarrassing. Surely someone should put it out of its misery, pull the plug and maybe let it quietly disappear over the summer while most people are on holiday?
Did LL cover the Royal birth in any of it's bulletins today?
Lives from Jessica King throughout lunchtime from the Lindo and a 6.30 report with really poor long shots of Wills, Kate and the baby.
Christ. They'd have been better off just using agency stuff like PA/AP or whatever they use if the only stuff they can get themselves is of inferior quality. I just highlights their flaws and lack of resources even more. No Bank Holiday news again is very poor. This time last year they were doing two extended London Go shows on the Bank Holiday if I remember correctly (I remember one of them coming from the Spanish festival on Southbank I think?) but this year they don't have anything at all local news wise? It's becoming embarrassing. Surely someone should put it out of its misery, pull the plug and maybe let it quietly disappear over the summer while most people are on holiday?
DO
But somebody would have to pay for that. Their shots may be of inferior quality, but they've already paid for the equipment and crewing, so it makes financial sense to stick with their shots rather than fork out for some slightly better ones.
Could be worse. Yesterday at half ten at night, Sheffield Live (after leading on the royal baby story), were still reporting the Snooker semi-final score to be 11-14 after 25 frames, with the match due to resume this evening. This was broadcast just after the match finished.
Christ. They'd have been better off just using agency stuff like PA/AP or whatever they use if the only stuff they can get themselves is of inferior quality.
But somebody would have to pay for that. Their shots may be of inferior quality, but they've already paid for the equipment and crewing, so it makes financial sense to stick with their shots rather than fork out for some slightly better ones.
It's becoming embarrassing. Surely someone should put it out of its misery, pull the plug and maybe let it quietly disappear over the summer while most people are on holiday?
Could be worse. Yesterday at half ten at night, Sheffield Live (after leading on the royal baby story), were still reporting the Snooker semi-final score to be 11-14 after 25 frames, with the match due to resume this evening. This was broadcast just after the match finished.
SD
But somebody would have to pay for that. Their shots may be of inferior quality, but they've already paid for the equipment and crewing, so it makes financial sense to stick with their shots rather than fork out for some slightly better ones.
Could be worse. Yesterday at half ten at night, Sheffield Live (after leading on the royal baby story), were still reporting the Snooker semi-final score to be 11-14 after 25 frames, with the match due to resume this evening. This was broadcast just after the match finished.
Only to be beaten by Baffoe introducing the 6pm London Live News - apparently Arsenal have won the Premiership.
Thankfully she did realise her mistake after a few seconds.
Christ. They'd have been better off just using agency stuff like PA/AP or whatever they use if the only stuff they can get themselves is of inferior quality.
But somebody would have to pay for that. Their shots may be of inferior quality, but they've already paid for the equipment and crewing, so it makes financial sense to stick with their shots rather than fork out for some slightly better ones.
It's becoming embarrassing. Surely someone should put it out of its misery, pull the plug and maybe let it quietly disappear over the summer while most people are on holiday?
Could be worse. Yesterday at half ten at night, Sheffield Live (after leading on the royal baby story), were still reporting the Snooker semi-final score to be 11-14 after 25 frames, with the match due to resume this evening. This was broadcast just after the match finished.
Only to be beaten by Baffoe introducing the 6pm London Live News - apparently Arsenal have won the Premiership.
Thankfully she did realise her mistake after a few seconds.
MA
mark
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Here's something to ponder for a Bank Holiday...
If London Live wanted to improve the credibility of their news output without a major injection of cash, what could they do? My thoughts are...
Content:
- Focus more on live reporting than package-making. Work more closely with the Standard's newsdesk to identify the breaking stories and big events, and assign reporters accordingly.
- Put more emphasis on 'useful' content. Headlines, weather and travel at least every 15 minutes during news programnes.
- Keep the 5.30 newscast where it is, but break up the 6-7 hour into two half hours later in the evening at times when there are no other local news programmes on air. This would make it much easier to repeat pre-recorded content and focus efforts on updating a few big stories.
- If financially feasible, subscribe to some kind of agency video service.
Pres:
- Keep the wooden desk but enclose the front and sides with plastic, and put the London Live logo (or a screen displaying it) on the front.
- Put the desk in the middle section of the studio, between the two pillars. Remove the 'distressed' effect from the pillars and cover or paint with something that goes with the desk. Maybe put a column of small screens up the side of each.
- Put a portrait plasma with a nice-looking stand behind the desk, next to the presenter.
- Get the presenters to dress more smartly.
If London Live wanted to improve the credibility of their news output without a major injection of cash, what could they do? My thoughts are...
Content:
- Focus more on live reporting than package-making. Work more closely with the Standard's newsdesk to identify the breaking stories and big events, and assign reporters accordingly.
- Put more emphasis on 'useful' content. Headlines, weather and travel at least every 15 minutes during news programnes.
- Keep the 5.30 newscast where it is, but break up the 6-7 hour into two half hours later in the evening at times when there are no other local news programmes on air. This would make it much easier to repeat pre-recorded content and focus efforts on updating a few big stories.
- If financially feasible, subscribe to some kind of agency video service.
Pres:
- Keep the wooden desk but enclose the front and sides with plastic, and put the London Live logo (or a screen displaying it) on the front.
- Put the desk in the middle section of the studio, between the two pillars. Remove the 'distressed' effect from the pillars and cover or paint with something that goes with the desk. Maybe put a column of small screens up the side of each.
- Put a portrait plasma with a nice-looking stand behind the desk, next to the presenter.
- Get the presenters to dress more smartly.
TV
For me the sensible thing has always been to do 15 minute news, traffic, weather and sport round-ups on a loop instead of trying to create an hour or even 30 minute traditional bulletin - similar to what Sky News used to do in the evenings.
This means there's much less pressure to create lengthy packages and means your audience can dip in and out. I'd also avoid the BBC and ITV London evening news programmes and run this from 7-8.30, using that following half hour to showcase some other original content. For example the lunchtime interview show can be chopped down to half an hour, run at 8.30 with the previous 90 minutes trailing and showing clips from it. Easy content and using your limited resources in prime time rather than lunch when nobody is watching.
This means there's much less pressure to create lengthy packages and means your audience can dip in and out. I'd also avoid the BBC and ITV London evening news programmes and run this from 7-8.30, using that following half hour to showcase some other original content. For example the lunchtime interview show can be chopped down to half an hour, run at 8.30 with the previous 90 minutes trailing and showing clips from it. Easy content and using your limited resources in prime time rather than lunch when nobody is watching.
BR
I do think if you do 15 minute summaries running from 5-7pm is fine as it is an alternative format to the padded out BBC/ITV bulletins. I'd then run a 30 minute bulletin later in the evening.
Looking at local radio as the example I think concentrating on breakfast and drive time with a 15 minute news wheel from 7-9am and 5-7pm makes sense, then just have hourly updates during the day. In the evening either have hourly updates at least from 8-10pm or if they've got the resources throw in a 30 minute flagship bulletin - once they've got the basics covered for a 15 minute format it shouldn't be too tricky to extend it to a half hour slot.
Looking at local radio as the example I think concentrating on breakfast and drive time with a 15 minute news wheel from 7-9am and 5-7pm makes sense, then just have hourly updates during the day. In the evening either have hourly updates at least from 8-10pm or if they've got the resources throw in a 30 minute flagship bulletin - once they've got the basics covered for a 15 minute format it shouldn't be too tricky to extend it to a half hour slot.