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OS
OpeningSting
Does that mean that Comux play out the acquired content rather than it coming from LL's facility?


Yes. None of the acquired content is played out from London Live's own MCR. Every pre-recorded video asset (unless within a live show) is played out by the external TX provider, including all commercials & idents.

Thanks to Noggin for a great summing up of the difficulties associated with DSLR photography - you're absolutely right. Even if London Live broadcast in HD, with none of the down-converting PQ issues, that still wouldn't get around the rather odd sensation of the 'grammar' of live TV being out of whack. 50i/p shooting would probably have been a more suitable option.
thegeek and Steve in Pudsey gave kudos
DB
dbl
That explains the abrupt cuts sometimes between the studio and adverts.
Last edited by dbl on 3 September 2014 1:51pm
OS
OpeningSting
dbl posted:
That explains the abrupt cuts sometimes between the studio and adverts.


Exactly. Because these kinds of systems are automated, it requires to-the-second timings from gallery staff to avoid cut-offs or long pauses before commercial breaks.
NG
noggin Founding member
dbl posted:
That explains the abrupt cuts sometimes between the studio and adverts.


Exactly. Because these kinds of systems are automated, it requires to-the-second timings from gallery staff to avoid cut-offs or long pauses before commercial breaks.


Or you do what ITN and Arqiva did with the ITN News Channel (where commercials were played out by Arqiva) - and engineer a GPI triggered break to allow the vision mixer to "fire" the break?
OS
OpeningSting


Or you do what ITN and Arqiva did with the ITN News Channel (where commercials were played out by Arqiva) - and engineer a GPI triggered break to allow the vision mixer to "fire" the break?


That's the system that London Live use in their gallery, but there's a delay between firing the break and TX actually taking the gallery off-air. This means that mis-timing from gallery staff still results in cut-offs and overlong pauses.

This only applies to the breaks in the middle of a live show. The end-of-show breaks aren't triggered by a GPI and are automatically taken according to the TX schedule.
LL
London Lite Founding member
Is this Evening Standard editor Sarah Sands interviewing David Lammy from the LL Studio? Better than Amol I confess.

http://www.londonlive.co.uk/news/2014-09-05/david-lammy-to-go-for-mayor
NG
noggin Founding member


Or you do what ITN and Arqiva did with the ITN News Channel (where commercials were played out by Arqiva) - and engineer a GPI triggered break to allow the vision mixer to "fire" the break?


That's the system that London Live use in their gallery, but there's a delay between firing the break and TX actually taking the gallery off-air. This means that mis-timing from gallery staff still results in cut-offs and overlong pauses.


ISTR that the way round that is a timeline. You fire the break sting from the desk (either via a Ramcorder or GPI fired server) and then fire the GPI early enough in the timeline to counteract the delay in Comux firing the break? Relatively straightforward in a modern desk - but possibly not on a basic one.

If you have a 5" break sting and your delay is 2" you fire the break sting, and 3" in to it you fire your remote break GPI.
ST
stuartfanning
Other broadcaster against London Live plans to reduce 'local' content.

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broadcasters/broadcasters-slam-london-live-bid-to-slash-local-content/5077087.article

Channel 4, Channel 5, UKTV and rival bidders have lined up to slam London Live’s proposals to radically reduce its commitment to local programming.

The Evening Standard-operated television station wrote to Ofcom in July to request a number of changes to its licence, including slashing its primetime local content by two thirds - from three hours, to one hour a day. Cutting local repeats and diluting its service commitments were also priorities.

Ofcom invited views from interested parties and has published 20 responses on its website this week. All were critical of London Live’s proposals and most called for them to be dismissed outright by the media regulator.

C4 raised concerns that allowing London Live to change its licence so soon after it launched in March would “devalue” public service broadcasting in the UK. The commercial broadcaster argued that London Live’s proposals “fundamentally alters the nature” of what it was established to provide.

“C4 believes that such a move could devalue public service broadcasting by casting it as a burden instead of a privilege that can be diluted and dismissed so quickly after launch,” C4 said.

Channel 5 agreed with its counterpart. “Such a decision would also send the wrong message to other holders of L-DTPS (local TV) licences and those bidding to acquire them: that it does not really matter what is put in applications, because it can always be watered down substantially afterwards,” it said.

Both called on Ofcom to reject London Live’s proposals, as did UKTV, which said the plans were “unjustified, discriminatory, not legitimate and do not reflect the statutory and policy regime intended” for local TV.

A common theme in all of their responses was concern that London Live’s plans are a nakedly commercial attempt to grow audience share and take advantage of the Freeview channel 8 slot it has been granted as part of its 12-year licence.

Indeed, chief operating officer Tim Kirkman told Broadcast in July that licence changes would free-up London Live to air more “commercially sustainable” content, such as general entertainment acquisitions and, potentially, infomercials. He said the channel needed flexibility to prosper.

But UKTV argued: “Removing several of the ‘PSB-like’ burdens applicable to local TV licensees whilst retaining the ‘PSB-like’ benefits can be seen to amount to an unjustified regulatory intervention in the commercial landscape.”

Local TV bidders condemn plans

As well as criticism from some of the UK’s biggest commercial broadcasters, other local TV bidders and licence holders piled in to slam London Live’s proposals.

Jim Manson, group managing director of the Sir Michael Lyons-backed YourTV, claimed that London Live’s proposals risk damaging the reputation of local TV around the country.

YourTV lost out on the London licence, as did London 8, the bid backed by former C4 chairman Luke Johnson. The latter said that if London Live’s requests are granted, it will seek a judicial review of its licence award.

Guy Hornsby, who helped co-ordinate London 8’s bid, said: “It is clear that, if ESTV’s original licence was sought on the basis of the amended commitments they now seek to make, the licence would not have been granted to them.”

Law firm Fieldfisher made a submission on behalf of Richard Horwood’s unsuccessful London bid, Channel 6. It said: “It would appear to be highly unfair to other bidders in the licence application process if Ofcom were to permit ESTV substantially to reduce its voluntarily-offered programming commitments just a few months after the channel had launched.”

Source: Broadcast magazine
MO
Mouseboy33
London8 woulda been a better choice. Ugh.
LO
Londoner
Banter on NTOS is dire.

And the window doesn't work well at this time of year on NTOS - all you can see is the reflection of the scrolling autocue.
LO
Londoner
25 minutes into NTOS (watching because they trailed an item relevant to my work) and losing the will to live.
LL
London Lite Founding member
I wouldn't mind, this week has been a Scodie free zone, but once again it comes down to a dire format and poor guest selection.

Incidentally, where is Marc Edwards? Not seen him on LL for weeks now.

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