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DE
deejay
If you fancy it, the former Oxford set has been reconstructed as an attraction at The New Forest Show Smile
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Critique
Some real differences between the regions in regards to their coverage last night on the centenary of the outbreak of WWI, with South Today managing a superb programme on location, with some great reports and coverage. However, there was no other local news in the programme at all, with the weather forecast done as a separate thing after the close of the main programme. Meanwhile, South East Today and many other regions dedicated much of their programme to the centenary, but had a second presenter with the rest of the day's news in the studio. Look Levy didn't even have the WWI commemorations as the top story! When regions like the South have the content to fill 30 minutes I can't help but think they'd have benefited from having an opt-out to do a separate programme at say, 7:30, or a longer programme to accommodate the rest of the local news- viewers in the region wouldn't have missed much as there was no One Show and Room 101 at 8:30 was a repeat.
Last edited by Critique on 5 August 2014 4:27pm
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South Today
Spotlight did a superb effort too! Meridian's offering was rather poor - I am guessing Fred is on one of these old contracts where the main anchor gets the summer months off? Just like Mike Neville did.
HB
HarryB
Considering how well the green screen studio has been produced, Ceri seemed to lose her hand this evening – how does this happen?

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ASO
Considering how well the green screen studio has been produced, Ceri seemed to lose her hand this evening – how does this happen?

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Once again, you're posting about a presenter's personal life, and quite frankly it's disgusting.
Last edited by ASO on 9 August 2014 11:22pm
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bilky asko
Considering how well the green screen studio has been produced, Ceri seemed to lose her hand this evening – how does this happen?

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She moved her hand out of the mask that's been applied to the shot - i.e. she's moved too much.
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dosxuk
Considering how well the green screen studio has been produced, Ceri seemed to lose her hand this evening – how does this happen?

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She moved her hand out of the mask that's been applied to the shot - i.e. she's moved too much.


That. Or high powered lasers.

21 days later

HB
HarryB
A recently new face to the late presenter chair on South Today, Rob Powell, a young guy - and in my opinion he seems a bit false and "roboty".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04fcnd0/south-today-29082014
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noggin Founding member
Considering how well the green screen studio has been produced, Ceri seemed to lose her hand this evening – how does this happen?

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For big wide shots in temporary green screen studios you often do two things, both of which could cause a presenter's hand to disappear in the shot.

1. You only have a small amount of green-screen to provide the key (or cut out signal) that is required. You don't have a fully green studio (like the ITN or BBC VR studios) you have just enough to allow you to isolate the live presenter, and the rest is masked (i.e. the background is forced to the foreground and the camera shot is ignored). If this is the case, moving your hand into the masked area will mean it is in the area that is being permanently replaced by a graphic (rather than chroma keyed/CSOed) and your hand disappears.

2. Often you have to create a virtual wide shot which is far wider than could ever be shot with a camera in your temporary broom cupboard. In that case you DVE (i.e. electronically re-size and re-position) the live camera to shrink it and place it into a much wider background scene. This means you could let your hand wander out of the camera shot, which would look normal when the camera is full frame, but when the camera is shrunk and keyed over the graphic wide shot, your hand no longer leaves the edge of frame, it just disappears.

Quite often both techniques are used with masks, garbage mattes etc. at the same time. I suspect a square mask is being used and a reasonably tight shot is being DVEed back into the 'virtual' studio wide shot.
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G Honeybun
A recently new face to the late presenter chair on South Today, Rob Powell, a young guy - and in my opinion he seems a bit false and "roboty".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04fcnd0/south-today-29082014


Bit harsh. He was probably thrown in at the deep end to cover sickness or something. You can see he looks nervous. Its not an easy thing to do!
ST
South Today
Considering how well the green screen studio has been produced, Ceri seemed to lose her hand this evening – how does this happen?

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For big wide shots in temporary green screen studios you often do two things, both of which could cause a presenter's hand to disappear in the shot.

1. You only have a small amount of green-screen to provide the key (or cut out signal) that is required. You don't have a fully green studio (like the ITN or BBC VR studios) you have just enough to allow you to isolate the live presenter, and the rest is masked (i.e. the background is forced to the foreground and the camera shot is ignored). If this is the case, moving your hand into the masked area will mean it is in the area that is being permanently replaced by a graphic (rather than chroma keyed/CSOed) and your hand disappears.

2. Often you have to create a virtual wide shot which is far wider than could ever be shot with a camera in your temporary broom cupboard. In that case you DVE (i.e. electronically re-size and re-position) the live camera to shrink it and place it into a much wider background scene. This means you could let your hand wander out of the camera shot, which would look normal when the camera is full frame, but when the camera is shrunk and keyed over the graphic wide shot, your hand no longer leaves the edge of frame, it just disappears.

Quite often both techniques are used with masks, garbage mattes etc. at the same time. I suspect a square mask is being used and a reasonably tight shot is being DVEed back into the 'virtual' studio wide shot.


The wide shots seem to be completely ditched a few weeks ago...
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DrewF
They used it on this evening's programme, and they've been using wider shots to show the large screen behind the presenters at the desk.

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