BBC News Channel General Discussion

Oh yes it is, but what would be easier and better is just using World's titles. To be honest, I think they should just do that permanently. Getting fed up with seeing the newsroom shot all the time. They could just reserve that shot for the weather/ BOTH.

The newsroom shot is great especially now he can see it all the time in HD.

That is worse than the original - it makes the extension far more obvious, and could quite possibly give people motion sickness. The current version is fine.

With the obvious stretched out shot that judders in the middle? No thanks.

I'd just run the normal titles, to the newsroom pan, but pan over to the weather screen with whoever is on location on it, seems like the easy way to get around the problem of the long titles?

What? Adding an extra globe frame so the music fits the visuals... don't be daft.

The current long titles look silly, with the ridiculous hold at the end while the music catches up.

Showing an empty studio or a standby presenter or a presenter from the previous hour who is in no rush to leave?

Whoever is due to go on air should be ready well before the titles roll, so displaying them on the weather monitor would be a good idea.

It would be unnecessary faff. There is no requirement that the newsroom must be shown, therefore showing longer titles rather than some stupid newsroom pan around a weather screen is the better solution.

It's a ridiculous idea as the weather screen is located in the (as it says on the wall) BBC WEATHER centre. Viewers expect the news to be broadcast from the news studio, not to have a silly and pointless zoom from the trundlecam to the weather screen.

It annoys the hell out of me on programs like "Watchdog" that insist on having the camera zoom in on the monitor to the right of Anne Robinson as the titles start to play. It is unnecessary faff and does not add anything to the quality of the show.

All BBC News need to do is run the long titles and then cue the reporter/presenter doing the OB link. Then hopefully the top of the hour/bottom of the hour segment will start without any ridiculous errors due to unnecesary "frills" being added. There have been multiple instances documented on here (I have posted several videos myself) of where the opening at the top of the hour has gone wrong due to Mozart not starting the camera moves correctly, and as most OB's at the top of the hour when they do not bother showing studio E/C or A are for serious and sometimes sombre stories, it makes sense to do as plain an opening as possible. Do we really need to have cameras dancing all over the place when the story may be about multiple persons having been killed (such as the helicopter crash in Glasgow) or for a former president having died (Mandella)?

This argument is something that appears every time that they do coverage from location and to be quite honest is a debate that has been going on for about 9 months now and to be quite honest it's boring now - the BBC won't and to be frank don't need to change it. They'll either run the current long titles or if it's a World simulcast run the World titles but apart from that there is barely a possibility that the Beeb will even consider changing something that the average viewer won't even notice or care about.

As with anyone, you are entitled to your opinion, as are others.

Just because the average viewer may not notice the long titles 'issue' doesn't mean to say something shouldn't be done to sort them out.

It's like the knocked off BBC channel logos that used to hamper BBC News a while back. Yes, the average viewer may not notice, that doesn't mean to say things shouldn't be done properly.

The difference being that the logos being distorted, and cropped incorrectly, is a matter of fact. Whether the "long" titles work or not is a definite matter of opinion.