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International News Presentation: Past and Present

(February 2007)

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whoiam989 posted:
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Slovenia's public broadcaster RTV Slovenija unveiled a new look for its newscasts tonight (a week later than originally announced)

Will their Italian and Hungarian bulletins get a make over, too?


I doubt it. The broadcaster's Italian-language station is located in a different town (Koper rather than Ljubljana) and has always had a different news identity from their parent (even though it's in a desperate need of a makeover). The Hungarian-language program is just a weekly newsmagazine repeated several times during the week.

Here's RTV Slovenija's Newsnight-style late news:

VIDEO: http://tvslo.si/predvajaj/odmevi/ava2.134712000/

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whoiam989
WW Update posted:
whoiam989 posted:
WW Update posted:
Slovenia's public broadcaster RTV Slovenija unveiled a new look for its newscasts tonight (a week later than originally announced)

Will their Italian and Hungarian bulletins get a make over, too?


I doubt it. The broadcaster's Italian-language station is located in a different town (Koper rather than Ljubljana) and has always had a different news identity from their parent (even though it's in a desperate need of a makeover). The Hungarian-language program is just a weekly newsmagazine repeated several times during the week.

Right. It took years for BBC's Newyddion to get the latest look.
Well, I would say, in jargons, Make It Happen.
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And a final post before everyone gets a Slovenian TV overload:

Slovenska kronika -- a roundup of local news stories:

VIDEO: http://tvslo.si/predvajaj/slovenska-kronika/ava2.134703801/

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Sports:

VIDEO: http://tvslo.si/predvajaj/sport-ob-19h/ava2.134704327/

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An example of weather graphics (for the mountains, in this case):

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Here are some YouTube clips showing how the exit poll results of the first round of the French presidential election were announced on...

TF1:



France 2:



BFM TV:

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midnightvignette
So France has at least eight broadcasers symultaneously covering the election result - I've counted M6, France 2 & 3, TF1, iTele, BFMTV, Canal+ and the parliament channel - in a country of 50 million?

On election night here there is just Sky, BBC and ITV, and ITV have scaled down the grandness of their coverage over the years.

Either the audience for the election is so big it's a big advertising earner, or... what?
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Brekkie
midnightvignette posted:
So France has at least eight broadcasers symultaneously covering the election result - I've counted M6, France 2 & 3, TF1, iTele, BFMTV, Canal+ and the parliament channel - in a country of 50 million?

On election night here there is just Sky, BBC and ITV, and ITV have scaled down the grandness of their coverage over the years.

Either the audience for the election is so big it's a big advertising earner, or... what?

It is a really interesting comparison. Whenever the question of PSB or regional content is thrown up here people seem to instantly make the comparisons with the US - but that is a completely different market. It is Europe - and France especially - which we should probably be looking at to see how we compare.
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cityprod
Brekkie posted:
midnightvignette posted:
So France has at least eight broadcasers symultaneously covering the election result - I've counted M6, France 2 & 3, TF1, iTele, BFMTV, Canal+ and the parliament channel - in a country of 50 million?

On election night here there is just Sky, BBC and ITV, and ITV have scaled down the grandness of their coverage over the years.

Either the audience for the election is so big it's a big advertising earner, or... what?

It is a really interesting comparison. Whenever the question of PSB or regional content is thrown up here people seem to instantly make the comparisons with the US - but that is a completely different market. It is Europe - and France especially - which we should probably be looking at to see how we compare.


Why is the US such a bad comparison? There are only 2 markets out of the 210 in the US that are bigger than our London region in terms of population.. That's right, only 2. New York and Los Angeles. Every other market is on a par with one of our regions, or even smaller than the smallest one, the Channel Islands.

Canada is a good comparison too. Just 30 million people there, and no market comes anywhere near to London. Yet you have a station in Hamilton, Ontario, population about the same as Cornwall, doing 15+ hours every weekday of news.

No matter which of those three countries you comapre the UK to, our attitdues towards public service programming, especially news and local news, come off very poorly.
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Brekkie
cityprod posted:
Brekkie posted:
midnightvignette posted:
So France has at least eight broadcasers symultaneously covering the election result - I've counted M6, France 2 & 3, TF1, iTele, BFMTV, Canal+ and the parliament channel - in a country of 50 million?

On election night here there is just Sky, BBC and ITV, and ITV have scaled down the grandness of their coverage over the years.

Either the audience for the election is so big it's a big advertising earner, or... what?

It is a really interesting comparison. Whenever the question of PSB or regional content is thrown up here people seem to instantly make the comparisons with the US - but that is a completely different market. It is Europe - and France especially - which we should probably be looking at to see how we compare.


Why is the US such a bad comparison? There are only 2 markets out of the 210 in the US that are bigger than our London region in terms of population.. That's right, only 2. New York and Los Angeles. Every other market is on a par with one of our regions, or even smaller than the smallest one, the Channel Islands.

Canada is a good comparison too. Just 30 million people there, and no market comes anywhere near to London. Yet you have a station in Hamilton, Ontario, population about the same as Cornwall, doing 15+ hours every weekday of news.

No matter which of those three countries you comapre the UK to, our attitdues towards public service programming, especially news and local news, come off very poorly.

You answer your own question by pointing out there are 210 markets in the US - it's a very different make up to here, and what Lord Hunt of Murdochland forgets is that in most cases the regional stations are affiliates to the network - they're not operating independently as he proposed.

I agree Canada is a better comparison - but as you say "our" attitude towards PSB and local news (and by "our" I mean the official view, not the public view) is very poor. For the last decade we've had this myth that once digitial switchover kicked in nobody would care about local content or local news - and there is absolutely zero evidence to suggest that viewing figures for local content has plummeted in areas in the weeks after DSO.
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The main reason why local news is so widespread in places such as the US and Canada is that it's profitable for most stations, not (primarily) because it's seen as a public service. In fact, the FCC doesn't require stations to air any news at all.

If OFCOM could develop a model that would make regional news in the UK profitable for broadcasters (by whatever regulatory means), that would go a long way in solving the problem of regional news output. Broadcasters would then be able to provide an important public service for purely self-serving reasons.
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From 1986, a day after a horrific mid-air collision above Los Angeles, here's KTLA's 10pm news in its entirety :



Former MSNBC host Keith Olbermann is the sports anchor.

(Via user TexasTVNews at TVNewsTalk)
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The beginning of last night's French presidential debate:

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WMAQ, Chicago, USA, 2012(new look):

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