The Newsroom

RTE News - Ireland

(December 2008)

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BR
breakingnews
Some surprise news, The Irish Times has reported today that Ken Hammond has retired this week from RTE newsroom after a quarter of a century. Ken was one of best newscasters in RTE, sad to see him go, but the best of luck to him in his retirement


Yes he's definitely been part of the furniture in RTE news for many years - he was terrible at breaking news, but a good newsreader.
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Telefis
Fully agreed on the breaking news, and horrendous delivery of scripted questions, but otherwise impeccable. A great loss indeed.

16 days later

LJ
Live at five with Jeremy
Great to see a bit of life in the Dail today! Paul Gogarty had a bit of a moment. Well worth watching!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkJLWx6H7Gs
PH
Phen
I see they've started using a new wide shot at the start of the 6.01. Its nice in that is makes the studio look big. It's done quite well really - the ordinary Joe Bloggs wouldn't be able to tell that its half CG. The fake cameras even have blinking lights on them - quite well done. The RTE NEWS | SIX ONE looks terrible on the floor though and I think it ruins the whole effect - its WAY too 1990s. Get rid of it and the shot wouldn't look half bad. I wonder if its shot using the overhead rail camera or is it shot using a tall ped?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2505/4187844600_9064e052f5_o.jpg

But why did they bother doing that? There wasn't much wrong with the way they had it...
CI
cityprod
I guess you haven't seen the ITV News regional news programmes recently. I think all the "corporate look" studios have the same type of effect, albeit actually done with light and not CG, but the effect is similar.
ST
Stuart
I guess you haven't seen the ITV News regional news programmes recently. I think all the "corporate look" studios have the same type of effect, albeit actually done with light and not CG, but the effect is similar.

I don't think the regional news on ITV1 still so that since they changed and painted the floor black. IIRC they don't for the West/Westcountry version.
CO
Colm
Caught some of last night's News on Two and had to laugh at a plastic cup of water sat on the desk in shot.

And great to see Una O'Hagan on the Nine last night, a lot more natural and competent than Anne Doyle. Certainly made a change from the first bit of RTE News I saw yesterday morning with the still-awful Aenghus Mac Grianna...

16 days later

RD
rdd Founding member
Richard Crowley has got the Prime Time gig. He's currently presenter of "This Week" (the Sunday edition of the News at One) on RTÉ Radio 1 and has previously presented Morning Ireland, though he hasn't done very much TV work.

http://www.rte.ie/arts/2010/0106/crowleyr.html
PO
polo23
Richard Crowley use to present the RTE main evening news back in the late 1980s, has been RTE's Middle East Correspondent from 2001 to 2007 and presented RTE's business tv programme earlier this year so he does has a fair bit of TV presenting under his belt!
PH
Phen
Great use of the robot on this evening's Nine. Wonderful wide shot after the titles. I'll be watching it over and over on the RTÉ player! Great to see RTÉ are maintaining this new high standard of news presentation. Compared to just 18 months or 2 years ago, its like a different broadcaster altogether. Well done to all involved!
ED
edmund
Phen posted:
I see they've started using a new wide shot at the start of the 6.01. Its nice in that is makes the studio look big. It's done quite well really - the ordinary Joe Bloggs wouldn't be able to tell that its half CG. The fake cameras even have blinking lights on them - quite well done. The RTE NEWS | SIX ONE looks terrible on the floor though and I think it ruins the whole effect - its WAY too 1990s. Get rid of it and the shot wouldn't look half bad. I wonder if its shot using the overhead rail camera or is it shot using a tall ped?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2505/4187844600_9064e052f5_o.jpg

But why did they bother doing that? There wasn't much wrong with the way they had it...


They used this for the election results a while ago
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Telefis
Phen posted:
Great use of the robot on this evening's Nine. Wonderful wide shot after the titles.


Yes the robot sequences are consistently superb when used at weekends. Just beautiful. The music bed is the perfect pace, the shot is smooth and engaging, and the shot is the perfect length to act as a buffer without being distracting or overly brief. Really the first time that RTÉ News's titles have truly engaged with a title sequence in recent years.

By contrast, it shows up how increasingly shoddy the operation of the railcam is. Alas it would appear to be very operator-dependent in terms of their skills and ability to pull it off successfully. When it goes wrong, it does so spectacularly, ranging from not starting in time, stopping too soon, being poorly paced, crassly controlled in a way that results in jolts and shudders, and poor angling. Such a staple of the newsroom should not be so inconsistent.

Of course what remains a constant irritant is the cameras clipping into shot and the base of the desk being cropped out in the opening and closing sequences. It is baffling this was not picked up on in the planning stage, or it if was, that it was allowed to proceed. I often think of visitors to this country watching the evening news in hotel rooms and B&Bs across the state, smirking at what they think is a camera malfunction at the start of the bulletin they're watching, unless of course they see it on consecutive nights, when the truth is sadly revealed. It's such a mess. I'd nearly prefer if the robot was used in place of the railcam, it's that bad. When operated in full flourish, with a grandiose sweep in sync with the drumroll of the titles and a soft mix it looks superb, but is still let down by the distraction of the cameras. I often wonder if a wider angle lens, taking in more of the cameras, might actually work better - as unpalatable as it may be. At least it would look better resolved.

Of course the icing on the cake with the railcam is Anne Doyle's staunch refusal to act naturally in the wide shot, sitting like a rabbit in the headlights with her eyes glued to the monitor until she her cue to turn, machine-like, to the ped camera. It is so hideously cringe-induing to watch, and worse still when she gets her timing wrong, i.e., every second night. It is clearly derived from her own admission that she never ever watches herself back on television. Is it any wonder she has never improved her presentation skills. She has no idea how out of sync she is with what is going on around her, nor what the viewer can actually see and hear, and observe how transparent she is in her modus operandi. A shame, as she's still a fabulous newscaster on the occasions when she shines, but that's increasingly rare these days.

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