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BBC One to Simulcast Live Online

(June 2008)

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BE
benjy
SOL posted:
noggin posted:
SOL posted:
I've been wondering this for a while......If you don't have a TV but have a computer connected to the net, will you be charged the licence fee?


My understanding is that if you use your PC to watch live TV broadcasts - whether using a TV tuner card or streaming BBC One or the BBC News Channel via the internet on a PC (or IPTV box for that matter), then you need a TV licence.


Thanks. I've bn thinking about this for a while as I'm moving to uni halls in sept and was going to buy a laptop with a tv tuner instead of bringing the TV.


I believe if you use your tuner whilst your laptop is not plugged into the mains, you do not need a TV licence, as it is treated like a portable TV (which is covered by your home licence). However once you plug the laptop in, you'll need a licence. Bit too much trouble than it's worth, I reckon - unless you have an enormous battery!
GS
Gavin Scott Founding member
benjy posted:
SOL posted:
noggin posted:
SOL posted:
I've been wondering this for a while......If you don't have a TV but have a computer connected to the net, will you be charged the licence fee?


My understanding is that if you use your PC to watch live TV broadcasts - whether using a TV tuner card or streaming BBC One or the BBC News Channel via the internet on a PC (or IPTV box for that matter), then you need a TV licence.


Thanks. I've bn thinking about this for a while as I'm moving to uni halls in sept and was going to buy a laptop with a tv tuner instead of bringing the TV.


I believe if you use your tuner whilst your laptop is not plugged into the mains, you do not need a TV licence, as it is treated like a portable TV (which is covered by your home licence). However once you plug the laptop in, you'll need a licence. Bit too much trouble than it's worth, I reckon - unless you have an enormous battery!


That's the strangest loophole I've heard - but easy enough to work around. You just pull the power cord out if there's a knock at the door!

A lot easier than attempting to flush your telly down the toilet.
LI
littlesmegger
benjy posted:
SOL posted:
noggin posted:
SOL posted:
I've been wondering this for a while......If you don't have a TV but have a computer connected to the net, will you be charged the licence fee?


My understanding is that if you use your PC to watch live TV broadcasts - whether using a TV tuner card or streaming BBC One or the BBC News Channel via the internet on a PC (or IPTV box for that matter), then you need a TV licence.


Thanks. I've bn thinking about this for a while as I'm moving to uni halls in sept and was going to buy a laptop with a tv tuner instead of bringing the TV.


I believe if you use your tuner whilst your laptop is not plugged into the mains, you do not need a TV licence, as it is treated like a portable TV (which is covered by your home licence). However once you plug the laptop in, you'll need a licence. Bit too much trouble than it's worth, I reckon - unless you have an enormous battery!


This is what I've been reading to, seeing I'll be off to uni later this year. I guess as long as you charge it beforehand while it's not plugged in for telly, you can then watch telly later on. Seeing my setup is ok for 6 hours before needing to be charged again, that should suit me just fine!
BI
birdie100
I think you posters abpve have indeed seen the very complicated flaw in the TV License fee. In all probability, it's when we move to downloading and viewing programmes on the net, which has only recently become legally possible (and therefore of a far higher quality than searching and trawling to dubious offshore sites), that the license fee's days are numbered. There is no way that laptops with interent access could be forced to pay the fee (the uproar would be immense)- but equally now it is possible for them all to receive ITV1-4, BBC News, BBC Parliament live - on each's respective webpage. I've been in hall this year, and I know that aside from the couple of people who own a TV in their room, no-one has a TV license. But, we still watch the apprentice, top gear etc whenver we want due to iplayer and 4oD. As you point out, if anyone were to come check (which they haven't, and I doubt would bother now) you simply pull the wire if you were watching "live" (again dubious to enforce becuase ITV in particular clearly point out that it is delayed). So, whilst I do not condone law breaking, for all their bleating that you must be a UK License fee payer to use iPlayer, for example, there's nothing legally stopping you, even via its terms and conditions, using it without. So, as and when you go to uni, if you feel like making a £120 donation to the collectors in freshers week, feel free, but in reality there are so many loopholes in the law as it stands, particularly if you have a laptop, that's fine. And for the person who suggested buying a TV card - unless you're hooked to channel 5, there really is no need whatsoever - you can get all your other shows via the internet these days.

Edit: found the link to the details on the TV Licensing page - nice to see it's been updated to their FAQ, but not the student section. Interesting to note the suggestion that when BBC One becomes a streamed as live broadcast, allegedly the iPlayer will be chargeable for the fee. Here's the link if you're interested: Licensing FAQ on iPlayer
BR
Brekkie
Interesting C4 seem to have stopped their live simulcast now. Do ITV simulcast online?
BI
birdie100
They do indeed. (sorry for it being such a short post)
GM
nodnirG kraM
Gavin Scott posted:
A lot easier than attempting to flush your telly down the toilet.

Viv - eat the laptop.
JB
JasonB
Brekkie posted:
Interesting C4 seem to have stopped their live simulcast now. Do ITV simulcast online?


Yep, all four channels.
GS
Gavin Scott Founding member
nodnirG kraM posted:
Gavin Scott posted:
A lot easier than attempting to flush your telly down the toilet.

Viv - eat the laptop.


The lithium in the battery would be a boon for some of the members I'm sure.
PE
Pete Founding member
of course it could be suggested that the licence be converted to a type of general taxation which would only annoy those without tellys. then you'd possibly save on the collection fees and all that nonsense.
CY
cylon6
It looks like all BBC terrestrial channels will be streamed.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117986925.html?categoryId=19&cs=1&nid=3078
JO
Joe
birdie100 posted:
They do indeed. (sorry for it being such a short post)

There is no requirement for it to be longer than two letters.

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