I notice the first batch of photos on that last page linked to shows the Sony LMS (Library Management System) control panel (the keyboard thing) and playout stack (the thing that looks like a giant choccy bar vending machine - the VTRs were in the 5 drawers to the left, and the pigeon hole banks to the right accomodated cassettes - either Beta SP or D2/D3). I notice a couple of tapes were still in the thing. Wonder what's on them - I think those and the jingle carts ought to be rescued by ITV Central, if only to hand them on to the NFTVA or the NMFPT in Bradford. I agree ITV Central no longer need them, but does that mean they should just get chucked away forever - especially when we now have the foresight to see these things are STILL (for a short time only) there to be kept.
I sorry, but why would a museum be interested in a random cart from a random TV programme? It might be a nice bit of memorbilia for a collector or enthusiast, but there were many thousands of the things in use in the broadcast industry - it's not of interest to a museum.
The only way such a cart would be is if it was used by Kenny Everett, Fluff Freeman or John Peel.
It's the same with the LMS, redundant broadcast plant like that is of no use to anyone. It's not notable enough to be in a museum (i.e. it's not a landmark device), it's of no practical use for production or for an educational establishment. Even a new TV station that wanted some second hand kit would baulk at it because the technology has moved on and they are obsolete
Want me to break in and grab that Bullseye tape for you, 623058?
If you want, I don;t believe its real, or even possible to convert it, to something we could actully listen to
Why wouldn't it be real?
It'd perfectly possible to dub it off onto something else if you had a cart player, but it's a heck of a faff for a single sound effect which you most likely could find elsewhere
Want me to break in and grab that Bullseye tape for you, 623058?
If you want, I don;t believe its real, or even possible to convert it, to something we could actully listen to
Why wouldn't it be real?
It'd perfectly possible to dub it off onto something else if you had a cart player, but it's a heck of a faff for a single sound effect which you most likely could find elsewhere
He thinks everything's a conspiracy against him when he smells even a whiff of a cheesy TV gameshow.
:-(
A former member
A: ITV has gone back to clean out the place again,
B: how would you listern to it and even convert it?
c: elsewhere? like where, most of the bullseye stuff is missing.
anyway i'm not that bothered! I'm into BB
Their ethos is totally against "breaking in" - they do not break and enter. They do enter sites without permission but with no criminal intent and cause no damage whilst they are there.. Their only 'crime' is trespass which is only a civil wrong.
Their ethos is totally against "breaking in" - they do not break and enter. They do enter sites without permission but with no criminal intent and cause no damage whilst they are there.. Their only 'crime' is trespass which is only a civil wrong.
Exactly, there's some great pictures on thier website of the Swiss Airlines Builidng in Leicester Square that is in the process of being pulled down (Hope the clock mechanism thing survives, people always gathered around to watch it chime on the top of the hour) they climed the scaffold & took pictures from the top but didn't break into the premises
I notice the first batch of photos on that last page linked to shows the Sony LMS (Library Management System) control panel (the keyboard thing) and playout stack (the thing that looks like a giant choccy bar vending machine - the VTRs were in the 5 drawers to the left, and the pigeon hole banks to the right accomodated cassettes - either Beta SP or D2/D3). I notice a couple of tapes were still in the thing. Wonder what's on them - I think those and the jingle carts ought to be rescued by ITV Central, if only to hand them on to the NFTVA or the NMFPT in Bradford. I agree ITV Central no longer need them, but does that mean they should just get chucked away forever - especially when we now have the foresight to see these things are STILL (for a short time only) there to be kept.
I sorry, but why would a museum be interested in a random cart from a random TV programme? It might be a nice bit of memorbilia for a collector or enthusiast, but there were many thousands of the things in use in the broadcast industry - it's not of interest to a museum.
The only way such a cart would be is if it was used by Kenny Everett, Fluff Freeman or John Peel.
It's the same with the LMS, redundant broadcast plant like that is of no use to anyone. It's not notable enough to be in a museum (i.e. it's not a landmark device), it's of no practical use for production or for an educational establishment. Even a new TV station that wanted some second hand kit would baulk at it because the technology has moved on and they are obsolete
Firstly -
I meant the tapes *in* the LMS, not the LMS. Although I was not thinking about the LMS, the LMS *was* a landmark device. I disagree totally on your analysis that it wasn't. It was a major stepping stone between separate VT decks and playout servers.
The original Blockbusters theme, as a clean recording (of which there was a 1/4" tape found in the debris), seems to be an item that ITV can't find anywhere else since their Kids TV Themes CD contains a re-recording rather than the original. No transmitted copy of Blockbusters contains the theme tune without applause plastered over the last several seconds.
If museums weren't interested in items that ordinary people aren't interested in or have no use for in their day-to-day lives, because they're historical and obsolete, there would be no such things as museums.
I meant the tapes *in* the LMS, not the LMS. Although I was not thinking about the LMS, the LMS *was* a landmark device. I disagree totally on your analysis that it wasn't. It was a major stepping stone between separate VT decks and playout servers.