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PE
peterrocket Founding member
Col posted:
Peter:
"UTVs OBs are out and about, bizarrely for UTV, to cover the Milk Cup"

With ropey picture quality for live links, as I saw last night during Logie's live links.


And Logie's lack of experience at live OBs, talking off camera to someone else whilst he was in vision on the studio plasma screen. Whoops. Perhaps full comms weren't available and he was watching the on-air feed from a telly tuned in. Now that would be fun if it was Sky Digital he was using to hear the studio Wink
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Are all of the UTV Sport department up in Coleraine for the duration of the Milk Cup? So far I've only seen Logie and Claire, not seen any sight of the Graham Reaper yet Smile Smile Smile


The Nigel Carr show will feature full coverage I presume
GB
GavBelfast
The Northern Ireland Milk Cup gets a half-hour highlights show on Sunday on UTV at 6pm.

Bit of a let-down: I'm sure they have given it an hour in previous years, as half-an-hour is a very short time to give adequate coverage of the finals, build-up to them and to capture the sights and sounds of the week.

Especially as it's practically the pinacle of UTV Sport's treasure-trove of sports rights these days. Rolling Eyes
CO
Colm
Gav:
"The Northern Ireland Milk Cup gets a half-hour highlights show on Sunday on UTV at 6pm.

Bit of a let-down: I'm sure they have given it an hour in previous years, as half-an-hour is a very short time to give adequate coverage of the finals, build-up to them and to capture the sights and sounds of the week."


The Milk Cup highlights programme has been an hour long in recent years, although I remember seeing the 1990 episode on tape when at UUC (with Jackie Fullerton and a young Ryan Giggs!) and it only lasted half an hour. Lots of on-screen transistions and good graphic work for 1990 Quantel standard, including an end credit sequence, no special "Ulster Television Sport" endcap though.

Graham was on last night, reporting on the Fermanagh team, featuring his wee brother Smile Almost as sweet as the sight of Chris Buckler from BBC Newsline reporting from Ballymena kennels with a puppy in his arms earlier this week...

Ahem Smile

Were the preliminary rounds of the Milk Cup featuring each county team played in their native countries this year like last? I remember UTV sending out its reporters to their own native counties; i.e. Logie reported on the Tyrone match, Graham on the Fermanagh match, Claire on the Antrim match.
CO
Colm
Peter:
"And Logie's lack of experience at live OBs, talking off camera to someone else whilst he was in vision on the studio plasma screen. Whoops. Perhaps full comms weren't available and he was watching the on-air feed from a telly tuned in. Now that would be fun if it was Sky Digital he was using to hear the studio Wink"

Come to think of it, the last few times UTV Sport have done live OBs (NW200, the victoriousTyrone team arriving to a welcoming crowd in Aughnacloy after beating Armagh in the All Ireland (sorry Murf couldn't resist rubbing it in Smile) you could clearly hear a member of the crew shouting "You're on!" to either Frank "5 Hours on UTV a Week? No I'm Not Overexposed!" Mitchell or Logie when they went over live.

Perhaps the BBC OB crews should help their Havelock House colleagues to present their live links with more precision and finesse Smile
PE
peterrocket Founding member
Ahh yes indeed!

A quickie request, well it should go out to all people really. If anyone has a VHS tape of the latest crunchie nut cornflakes advert of a car going into a garage - could they get in touch?

The adverts been going out on Channel 4 over here in NI, not UTV - Why? becuase that UTV /RPM own the original rights and have not been asked / paid for the rights? Smile

Whether the Kellogs people know this and are deliberately avoiding there is well... no one seems to know, all we know is UTV have never broadcast nor have scheduled such an advert!
CO
Colm
Peter:
"A quickie request, well it should go out to all people really. If anyone has a VHS tape of the latest crunchie nut cornflakes advert of a car going into a garage - could they get in touch?"

Seen the ad, not sure if I have it on tape, I'll have a look.

"The adverts been going out on Channel 4 over here in NI, not UTV - Why? becuase that UTV /RPM own the original rights and have not been asked / paid for the rights? Smile

Whether the Kellogs people know this and are deliberately avoiding there is well... no one seems to know, all we know is UTV have never broadcast nor have scheduled such an advert!"


I would have thought Kellogg's would have paid UTV good money for the rights to show that clip of the car driving into a garage, and from the looks of it, the picture quality of the clip suggests it came from the original source.

Or perhaps there's some OFCOM ruling whereby broadcast clips that are copyright of a television station cannot be broadcast as part of a paid advertisement?

Or maybe UTV prefer to show all the current Kellogg's ads with Irish voiceovers at the moment (and promoting Kellogg's website with the .ie domain) to appeal to their "secret" ROI audience Smile

On a different note, last night's End to End trailer. Dear oh dear oh dear Rolling Eyes
MU
murf1000
GavBelfast posted:
The Northern Ireland Milk Cup gets a half-hour highlights show on Sunday on UTV at 6pm.

Bit of a let-down: I'm sure they have given it an hour in previous years, as half-an-hour is a very short time to give adequate coverage of the finals, build-up to them and to capture the sights and sounds of the week.

Especially as it's practically the pinacle of UTV Sport's treasure-trove of sports rights these days. Rolling Eyes


The same can be said of GAA coverage, a half hour programme every week when they could easily fill an hour. Anyone watching the programme will notice they always cut mid sentance to the next topic, or to end programme.
MU
murf1000
Col posted:
Peter:
"A quickie request, well it should go out to all people really. If anyone has a VHS tape of the latest crunchie nut cornflakes advert of a car going into a garage - could they get in touch?"

Seen the ad, not sure if I have it on tape, I'll have a look.

"The adverts been going out on Channel 4 over here in NI, not UTV - Why? becuase that UTV /RPM own the original rights and have not been asked / paid for the rights? Smile

Whether the Kellogs people know this and are deliberately avoiding there is well... no one seems to know, all we know is UTV have never broadcast nor have scheduled such an advert!"


I would have thought Kellogg's would have paid UTV good money for the rights to show that clip of the car driving into a garage, and from the looks of it, the picture quality of the clip suggests it came from the original source.

Or perhaps there's some OFCOM ruling whereby broadcast clips that are copyright of a television station cannot be broadcast as part of a paid advertisement?

Or maybe UTV prefer to show all the current Kellogg's ads with Irish voiceovers at the moment (and promoting Kellogg's website with the .ie domain) to appeal to their "secret" ROI audience Smile

On a different note, last night's End to End trailer. Dear oh dear oh dear Rolling Eyes


I think the fact that Kelloggs treats the Island of Ireland as one country has something to do with where the advertising comes from.
CO
Colm
Murf1000:
"The same can be said of GAA coverage, a half hour programme every week when they could easily fill an hour."

What, another half hour of Frank Mitchell? Isn't five hours a week enough for the people of Northern Ireland?

Perhaps if they had a highlights section to End to End about the matches, have interviews with players and the team managers, they could successfully stretch it to an hour, and even have a marketable programme to ex-pats in England on one of the sports channels.

"Anyone watching the programme will notice they always cut mid sentance to the next topic, or to end programme."

I find that irritating when Ger Houlihan/Damien Breslin or the other studio pundits are making a point that they are interrupted by Logie because it's the end of the show. Can't you have end screen credits to indicate it's the end of "End to End" instead?

Oh wait, I forgot, UTV don't do end credits.

Other mysteries of End to End , part 48: How come Frank drinks a different flavour of River Rock fizzy water to the rest of the studio guests? Smile
CO
Colm
Murf1000:
"I think the fact that Kelloggs treats the Island of Ireland as one country has something to do with where the advertising comes from."

But that'll only start the usual "why are ads for a different country being shown on a British TV channel" debate.

Besides, those Kellogg's ads usually have English voices for the actors and their dialogue before switching to an Irish voiceover. At least they don't go the whole hog and try to redub the voices of the actors too like other advertisements do Smile
MU
murf1000
Col posted:
Murf1000:
"The same can be said of GAA coverage, a half hour programme every week when they could easily fill an hour."

What, another half hour of Frank Mitchell? Isn't five hours a week enough for the people of Northern Ireland?

Perhaps if they had a highlights section to End to End about the matches, have interviews with players and the team managers, they could successfully stretch it to an hour, and even have a marketable programme to ex-pats in England on one of the sports channels.

"Anyone watching the programme will notice they always cut mid sentance to the next topic, or to end programme."

I find that irritating when Ger Houlihan/Damien Breslin or the other studio pundits are making a point that they are interrupted by Logie because it's the end of the show. Can't you have end screen credits to indicate it's the end of "End to End" instead?

Oh wait, I forgot, UTV don't do end credits.

Other mysteries of End to End , part 48: How come Frank drinks a different flavour of River Rock fizzy water to the rest of the studio guests? Smile


If you notice most time Frank only speaks when spoken to by Logie, about who he thinks will win a match and last night he sat on fence for them all. Rolling Eyes
MU
murf1000
Col posted:
Murf1000:
"I think the fact that Kelloggs treats the Island of Ireland as one country has something to do with where the advertising comes from."

But that'll only start the usual "why are ads for a different country being shown on a British TV channel" debate.

Besides, those Kellogg's ads usually have English voices for the actors and their dialogue before switching to an Irish voiceover. At least they don't go the whole hog and try to redub the voices of the actors too like other advertisements do Smile


Well its a matter of opinion if its a british channel.
Anyway with reguards the ads the Sunday Mail doesnt advertise On UTV and C4, they let Ireland on Sunday have the advertising space.
Is Ireland on Sunday a foreign paper then?

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