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BBC News 24 Relaunch

(December 2003)

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BBC LDN
DAS posted:
BBC LDN posted:
However, if you want to be difficult, try looking at the picture, and compare the screen showing old N24 with the screens on the new N24 set. They look remarkably similar. As the screen in the dressing room image is clearly neither a plasma TV nor an LCD TV, we must conclude that it is the only other type mentioned in the article, a 'Holo Screen TV'. Bearing this in mind, the visual similarities between what we know to be a 'Holo Screen TV' and the screens on the new N24 set must produce the conclusion that the latter are indeed holoscreens.


I'm not attempting to be difficult, nor am I disagreeing that News 24 use holoscreens. I am pointing out that an upgrade of BBC dressing rooms doesn't, to me, provide any evidence at all that News 24 have the same screens. I'm only suggesting that BBC dressing rooms have nothing to do with News 24. If the BBC canteen changed the design of their dining tables, the News 24 desk wouldn't change - perhaps this is a exaggerated example, but my point is that News 24's screens wouldn't be connected to dressing rooms, nor would there be any influence there. The press release only tells me that holoscreens exist within the BBC - but that wasn't up for debate anyway.


*SIGH*

I've explained the link. The facilities upgrade was managed by BBC Studios. It was carried out around the same time as the construction of the N24 set. Coupled with the fact that screens from both locations look unquestionably similar, the link between the two is firmly established.

Even if you disagree with this link, just take a look at the picture, and then look at the new N24 screens. They are identical. They have the same translucent appearance, and washed-out image. They are both holoscreens. Irrespective of anything else I may have said, this was the point that I was ultimately getting at - that the new N24 screens are indeed holoscreens.

If you wish to pick apart my words and suggest that the link that I drew between the two was flawed, then please do so - although I'd suggest doing it via PM as nobody, least of all me, is interested in your pedantic deconstruction of my comments - but if you are unable to disprove my analysis and conclusion that the new screens are holoscreens, then let's leave it here.
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DAS Founding member
BBC LDN posted:
*SIGH*


I'm not sure why you're sighing if you're participating in a discussion on a forum, but there you go.

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I've explained the link. The facilities upgrade was managed by BBC Studios. It was carried out around the same time as the construction of the N24 set. Coupled with the fact that screens from both locations look unquestionably similar, the link between the two is firmly established.


Yes, I know exactly what you are saying but I disagree that a link is "firmly established" - if that is OK, of course. As far as I am concerned, even if both were carried out by BBC Studios, there is nothing to suggest News 24's screen is there because the dressing rooms have one.

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Even if you disagree with this link, just take a look at the picture, and then look at the new N24 screens. They are identical. They have the same translucent appearance, and washed-out image. They are both holoscreens. Irrespective of anything else I may have said, this was the point that I was ultimately getting at - that the new N24 screens are indeed holoscreens.


I haven't disagreed with that! But then I could show you a picture of a holoscreen in the BBC reception, the canteen or even the cleaners' common room - it still wouldn't tell me "There we go, that's a firm link with News 24"!

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If you wish to pick apart my words and suggest that the link that I drew between the two was flawed, then please do so - although I'd suggest doing it via PM as nobody, least of all me, is interested in your pedantic deconstruction of my comments...


A forum for discussion? Or a place for you to place your unquestionable , untouchable comments? I would suggest that I am free - as you are - to post my own opinions without you getting all tetchy because I disagree with you. Don't get personal for goodness sake. I would also suggest that nobody else is interested in pictures of BBC dressing rooms, but there you go. Just because I disagree with what you post, I am pedantically deconstructing your comments? No. So don't be so ridiculous and don't post on a forum if you are so offended by disagreement.

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...but if you are unable to disprove my analysis and conclusion that the new screens are holoscreens, then let's leave it here.


I am not setting out to disprove. I am questioning. If you can't take the fact I have a different viewpoint and repsond to it in a civilised manner, then let's leave it here.
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BBC LDN
DAS posted:
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If you wish to pick apart my words and suggest that the link that I drew between the two was flawed, then please do so - although I'd suggest doing it via PM as nobody, least of all me, is interested in your pedantic deconstruction of my comments...


A forum for discussion? Or a place for you to place your unquestionable , untouchable comments? I would suggest that I am free - as you are - to post my own opinions without you getting all tetchy because I disagree with you. Don't get personal for goodness sake. I would also suggest that nobody else is interested in pictures of BBC dressing rooms, but there you go. Just because I disagree with what you post, I am pedantically deconstructing your comments? No. So don't be so ridiculous and don't post on a forum if you are so offended by disagreement.


More pedantic deconstruction of my comments, and you've even presented it in such a way that perfectly illustrates what you are doing.

Nobody cares about you picking apart what I'm saying, and since in the rest of the comments in your last post, you said nothing that I hadn't already addressed before, there's nothing more to add. If you wish to continue picking me up on linguistic issues, whilst completely ignoring the point that was being made, then please do so via PM.
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DAS Founding member
i thought you didn't care?

I have made my point. You have made yours. If you don't want to DISCUSS but instead react personally because someone has dared to disagree with you, more fool you. I have picked you up on the point of debate, you took to that personally, THEN I picked you up on your attitude. All I say is don't be so bloody childish - take part in the discussion and react to the points I make instead of accusing me of ignoring them.

End story now.
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Re-it-er-ate
DAS posted:
End story now.


and...

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participating in a discussion on a forum


Hardly the promotion an open ended and free board needs is it?
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Deja vu...
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cat
I care.

Or are you so important now, LDN, that you are able to communicate the views of the entire fora through your own mind?

Crikey.
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DAS Founding member
Re-it-er-ate posted:
DAS posted:
End story now.


and...

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participating in a discussion on a forum


Hardly the promotion an open ended and free board needs is it?


Eh? So you would like me to continue this pathetic argument with BBC LDN even if he can't react without being personal? Then I'd be accused of turning the thread into an argument.
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Davidjb Founding member
Blimey guys, it's only some screens. I have to agree the dressing room screens do look very similar to the one's in use, in News 24's studio.
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BBC LDN
Erm, where exactly did I get personal?
DA
DAS Founding member
I thought you didn't care? I thought nobody cared?! You clearly do. PM sent to spare the madness of me and everybody else.

I have not said the screens in News 24 are not holoscreens. If you look at my posts, you will see I haven't cared about that at all. I only pointed out that - in my view - the screens in a dressing room do not make it "near as certain". That is the one point I made. Read my posts.

And from that one point I made, here we are now. Please, for the sake of the children, drop it.
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Moz
SB posted:
Not sure if its been talked about here, but i noticed during the sport on news24 today that they used the ticker with a yellow sport logo instead of the ususal orange box with a BBC Sport style yellow lie going up the tower / clock thing.. looks quite good - is it a new thing?


I've noticed this - I think it's only used on Sportsday (6.30s on Friday I think).

Yeah, when I saw it, it had the black on yellow Sport logo with the yellow line up the right of the tower as you describe. Can't remember if the actual ticker was going when I saw it though. Was it going when you saw it, and if so what colour was it? Blue?

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