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BBC News 24 Relaunch

(December 2003)

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Lee Stanley posted:
Hmm Sunday's Breakfast is using the News 24 DOG and box - did Weekend 24 do this yesterday too?


Why would there be a different DOG, or"tower" to use the modern and trendy vernacular? It's still BBC News 24, regardless of whether the programming strand is branded.

Mr Q posted:
Somebody mentioned earlier that special titles had been created for Weekend 24. Did it end with "Weekend 24" on the screen, or did it simply replace the headline text moving around the globe at the start?


Well it wasn't either, although it was closer to the latter. What replaced the usual moving headline text was actually:

|B|B|C| WEEKEND 24 |B|B|C| WEEKEND 24 |B|B|C| WEEKEND 24 etc

which is probably why people thought the titles had been specially created. As I understand it, if a text headline is not inputted, it defaults to a repeating BBC NEWS logo (i.e. with the actual logo, not just text). The fact that the BBC logo was used in conjunction W24 seems to have resulted in the conclusion that these titles were indeed specially constructed, although apart from that single distinction, the titles were identical to the usual TOTH (minus the big yellow 24).
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dvboy
BBC LDN posted:
Lee Stanley posted:
Hmm Sunday's Breakfast is using the News 24 DOG and box - did Weekend 24 do this yesterday too?


Why would there be a different DOG, or"tower" to use the modern and trendy vernacular? It's still BBC News 24, regardless of whether the programming strand is branded.


Because it's on BBC One as well. Before the News 24 rebrand, the simulcast lost the News 24 DOG at 6am and I think they even had an ident just before, but this morning it was a countdown.

I just think it says something that the UK's national broadcaster's premier channel doesn't actually upen up until 9am on a Sunday now! That they can't be bothered.

Maybe this is why, as people have said, it's unusual that it's on BBC One all over Christmas, and Saturdays might be moving to BBC One and getting the Breakfast branding... so the people at BBC One presentation don't have to get up early and be in work for 6am, do thirty seconds of work then sit around doing nothing for the best of nearly three hours before the next junction at 9. Hey they may as well do away with the ident at 5:59:30 on weekdays also.
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Re-it-er-ate
Has the Presenter Name aston stopped working on News 24??

This new look has totally failed this weekend - its all gone wrong!! The overnight titles played out again at 9am! Rolling Eyes
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Big Brother Founding member
Earlier on during Breakfast the aston with the URL and e-mail address didn't line up with the 'tower' at all. I don't just mean by a tiny amount it was a fair amount further down.
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Re-it-er-ate
I think we just had a 57 second countdown - the full compilation is very well done Very Happy and straight into Susannah with the Breaking News of Saddam's capture in Tikrit.
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Jakarta
Yeah, this is big news breaking. N24 had it straight at the TOTH and did not play titles. Sky had it on at the same tims as did ITVNC but CNNi took three minutes to report it which is interesting since they were doing a live DTL with their Baghdad Bureau Chief Jane Arraf. BBC World has been slow and went to it at approx. 10.05. We will bring you more details as we get them...
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A former member
Nothing on FOX News yet though.........!
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Re-it-er-ate
Jakarta posted:
Yeah, this is big news breaking. N24 had it straight at the TOTH and did not play titles. Sky had it on at the same tims as did ITVNC but CNNi took three minutes to report it which is interesting since they were doing a live DTL with their Baghdad Bureau Chief Jane Arraf. BBC World has been slow and went to it at approx. 10.05. We will bring you more details as we get them...


yes - thats probably because News 24 is hogging all the resources ! the reporters and the interviewees. The Tower has gone too - although Susanaah is handling this very well indeed!

Nik Gowing is probably getting a phone call about now - since Lucy seems unable to cope!
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A former member
Jakarta posted:
Yeah, this is big news breaking. N24 had it straight at the TOTH and did not play titles. Sky had it on at the same tims as did ITVNC


But both channels were beaten to the punch by good old Moira on BBC1 @ 9.57
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Jakarta
I disagree, it think she is doing quite well - especially since it is early Sunday morning, cut the woman some slack. Although saying that I look forward to seeing Nik Gowing if he can do it. I was surprised that at about 10 mins past they went away from the breaking news and into another story. They keep coming and going from it - which is a surprise.

N24 has all the usual, correspondents, academics from such and such institute. Sky says this has not been confirmed by the MoD, but once this has been announced by the Pentagon/MoD then I would imagine there wil be little else on the news today.
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Pete Founding member
BBC LDN posted:
Well it wasn't either, although it was closer to the latter. What replaced the usual moving headline text was actually:

|B|B|C| WEEKEND 24 |B|B|C| WEEKEND 24 |B|B|C| WEEKEND 24 etc

which is probably why people thought the titles had been specially created. As I understand it, if a text headline is not inputted, it defaults to a repeating BBC NEWS logo (i.e. with the actual logo, not just text). The fact that the BBC logo was used in conjunction W24 seems to have resulted in the conclusion that these titles were indeed specially constructed, although apart from that single distinction, the titles were identical to the usual TOTH (minus the big yellow 24).


The fact that they were also a lot clearer, the normal ones judder a bit.

I notice the aston has changed to Saddam Reports.
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intheknow
Hymagumba posted:
BBC LDN posted:
Well it wasn't either, although it was closer to the latter. What replaced the usual moving headline text was actually:

|B|B|C| WEEKEND 24 |B|B|C| WEEKEND 24 |B|B|C| WEEKEND 24 etc

which is probably why people thought the titles had been specially created. As I understand it, if a text headline is not inputted, it defaults to a repeating BBC NEWS logo (i.e. with the actual logo, not just text). The fact that the BBC logo was used in conjunction W24 seems to have resulted in the conclusion that these titles were indeed specially constructed, although apart from that single distinction, the titles were identical to the usual TOTH (minus the big yellow 24).


The fact that they were also a lot clearer, the normal ones judder a bit.

I notice the aston has changed to Saddam Reports.


One wonders why they don't do the sensible thing, and opt World into News 24, allowing more access to resources.

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