JA
Thats right, the dynamic junctions (as they are now called) have been updated as in between the trailers and information there is a BBC World sting shown - until today this was still the old sting.
I don't know if this has been mentioned but there seems to be a problem with some of the N24 studio cameras. On a few occassions, when either the 3rd holoscreen is being shown, or there is a shot of the newsreader on the right with the holoscreen behind them, the studio gets a green tint to it. This discolouration fades in and out - but this isn't always on and is not a broadcast problem since the green fading is only on when these cameras are used.
Secondly on the issue of the holoscreens - it was initially hoped that these would make the new look N24/World globe hover in mid air. Can this not be acheived by removing the black background to the globe and instead not project a background to the globe? This would look particularly impressive.
David Jonathan posted:
Just saw on BBC World that they are now using the new logo in their breakfillers
Thats right, the dynamic junctions (as they are now called) have been updated as in between the trailers and information there is a BBC World sting shown - until today this was still the old sting.
I don't know if this has been mentioned but there seems to be a problem with some of the N24 studio cameras. On a few occassions, when either the 3rd holoscreen is being shown, or there is a shot of the newsreader on the right with the holoscreen behind them, the studio gets a green tint to it. This discolouration fades in and out - but this isn't always on and is not a broadcast problem since the green fading is only on when these cameras are used.
Secondly on the issue of the holoscreens - it was initially hoped that these would make the new look N24/World globe hover in mid air. Can this not be acheived by removing the black background to the globe and instead not project a background to the globe? This would look particularly impressive.
GS
Whilst I agree that floating type graphics would be cool, how could a video projector *not* project black in those areas? You cant selectively project in some areas and not in others, unless you mask the projection somehow. Not very practical.
The screens are altogether more opaque than the manufacturers specifications tend to suggest. I saw them at a trade fair (PLASA) in London in September and I'm not sure if these are the same or not.
Gavin Scott
Founding member
Jakarta posted:
Secondly on the issue of the holoscreens - it was initially hoped that these would make the new look N24/World globe hover in mid air. Can this not be acheived by removing the black background to the globe and instead not project a background to the globe? This would look particularly impressive.
Whilst I agree that floating type graphics would be cool, how could a video projector *not* project black in those areas? You cant selectively project in some areas and not in others, unless you mask the projection somehow. Not very practical.
The screens are altogether more opaque than the manufacturers specifications tend to suggest. I saw them at a trade fair (PLASA) in London in September and I'm not sure if these are the same or not.
AP
Whilst I agree that floating type graphics would be cool, how could a video projector *not* project black in those areas? You cant selectively project in some areas and not in others, unless you mask the projection somehow. Not very practical.
The screens are altogether more opaque than the manufacturers specifications tend to suggest. I saw them at a trade fair (PLASA) in London in September and I'm not sure if these are the same or not.
The ones in the studio are very opaque.
Gavin Scott posted:
Jakarta posted:
Secondly on the issue of the holoscreens - it was initially hoped that these would make the new look N24/World globe hover in mid air. Can this not be acheived by removing the black background to the globe and instead not project a background to the globe? This would look particularly impressive.
Whilst I agree that floating type graphics would be cool, how could a video projector *not* project black in those areas? You cant selectively project in some areas and not in others, unless you mask the projection somehow. Not very practical.
The screens are altogether more opaque than the manufacturers specifications tend to suggest. I saw them at a trade fair (PLASA) in London in September and I'm not sure if these are the same or not.
The ones in the studio are very opaque.
NG
Whilst I agree that floating type graphics would be cool, how could a video projector *not* project black in those areas? You cant selectively project in some areas and not in others, unless you mask the projection somehow. Not very practical.
The screens are altogether more opaque than the manufacturers specifications tend to suggest. I saw them at a trade fair (PLASA) in London in September and I'm not sure if these are the same or not.
Err - you can't project black light - basic physics... Black is the absence of light - there is no such thing as black light (apart from as a colloquial phrase for UV light) The black areas of any projected picture are the colour/brightness of the un-illuminated screen - if you wash a light over the screen the "black" areas are the colour / brightness of the washed screen - the projector can't "remove" the light washed over the screen.
If used correctly Holoscreens can be shot and lit so that black picture areas appear semi-transparent - it depends on how much light hits the surface of the screen from other light sources, and how bright the background behind the screen is.
noggin
Founding member
Gavin Scott posted:
Jakarta posted:
Secondly on the issue of the holoscreens - it was initially hoped that these would make the new look N24/World globe hover in mid air. Can this not be acheived by removing the black background to the globe and instead not project a background to the globe? This would look particularly impressive.
Whilst I agree that floating type graphics would be cool, how could a video projector *not* project black in those areas? You cant selectively project in some areas and not in others, unless you mask the projection somehow. Not very practical.
The screens are altogether more opaque than the manufacturers specifications tend to suggest. I saw them at a trade fair (PLASA) in London in September and I'm not sure if these are the same or not.
Err - you can't project black light - basic physics... Black is the absence of light - there is no such thing as black light (apart from as a colloquial phrase for UV light) The black areas of any projected picture are the colour/brightness of the un-illuminated screen - if you wash a light over the screen the "black" areas are the colour / brightness of the washed screen - the projector can't "remove" the light washed over the screen.
If used correctly Holoscreens can be shot and lit so that black picture areas appear semi-transparent - it depends on how much light hits the surface of the screen from other light sources, and how bright the background behind the screen is.
MS
Alistair Yates sitting in for Chris Lowe tonight...very interesting. I've never seen him at this time of day before, he's usually overnight with World (though he has done the 11-1 shift a few times).
:-(
A former member
Weird Alistair Yates being on - you'd think with the new set-up the bosses (and indeed the presenters themselves) would want all the presenters on at their regular slots in the first week (not take leave/be sick etc..) - give them a chance to get used to it etc... Chris Lowe was off last sunday as well - it was Joanna with Tim Willcox.
GS
Whilst I agree that floating type graphics would be cool, how could a video projector *not* project black in those areas? You cant selectively project in some areas and not in others, unless you mask the projection somehow. Not very practical.
The screens are altogether more opaque than the manufacturers specifications tend to suggest. I saw them at a trade fair (PLASA) in London in September and I'm not sure if these are the same or not.
Err - you can't project black light - basic physics... Black is the absence of light - there is no such thing as black light (apart from as a colloquial phrase for UV light) The black areas of any projected picture are the colour/brightness of the un-illuminated screen - if you wash a light over the screen the "black" areas are the colour / brightness of the washed screen - the projector can't "remove" the light washed over the screen.
If used correctly Holoscreens can be shot and lit so that black picture areas appear semi-transparent - it depends on how much light hits the surface of the screen from other light sources, and how bright the background behind the screen is.
Er yes, on reading what I previously wrote it seems I am suggesting you can project 'black light'. This flies in the face of both physics, what I said earlier in the thread, and worst - what I do for a living. Of course you cant.
What I was driving at was that even the best lcd projector cant fully mask the 'black' areas as completely as something like a glass or steel gobo. If you projected the same logo from an lcd projector in a blackout, you would see how much light is passing through the lcd array in the black areas of the logo. The bigger problem acheiving the floating effect seems to be spill from all the other sources.
Gavin Scott
Founding member
noggin posted:
Gavin Scott posted:
Jakarta posted:
Secondly on the issue of the holoscreens - it was initially hoped that these would make the new look N24/World globe hover in mid air. Can this not be acheived by removing the black background to the globe and instead not project a background to the globe? This would look particularly impressive.
Whilst I agree that floating type graphics would be cool, how could a video projector *not* project black in those areas? You cant selectively project in some areas and not in others, unless you mask the projection somehow. Not very practical.
The screens are altogether more opaque than the manufacturers specifications tend to suggest. I saw them at a trade fair (PLASA) in London in September and I'm not sure if these are the same or not.
Err - you can't project black light - basic physics... Black is the absence of light - there is no such thing as black light (apart from as a colloquial phrase for UV light) The black areas of any projected picture are the colour/brightness of the un-illuminated screen - if you wash a light over the screen the "black" areas are the colour / brightness of the washed screen - the projector can't "remove" the light washed over the screen.
If used correctly Holoscreens can be shot and lit so that black picture areas appear semi-transparent - it depends on how much light hits the surface of the screen from other light sources, and how bright the background behind the screen is.
Er yes, on reading what I previously wrote it seems I am suggesting you can project 'black light'. This flies in the face of both physics, what I said earlier in the thread, and worst - what I do for a living. Of course you cant.
What I was driving at was that even the best lcd projector cant fully mask the 'black' areas as completely as something like a glass or steel gobo. If you projected the same logo from an lcd projector in a blackout, you would see how much light is passing through the lcd array in the black areas of the logo. The bigger problem acheiving the floating effect seems to be spill from all the other sources.
ME
Little bit in this week's
Ariel
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Quote:
Delayed a week because of the power problems, the News 24 relaunch went ahead on Monday morning without further hitches.
"It was a clean launch and it went very well indeed," said Mike Kavanagh, head of presentation, television news. "Lead by the England rugby team's victory parade through London, it was a big news day, which is just what we wanted.
"The relaunch is fantastic. A lot of people worked very hard on it. But it's not just about the look, it's also about the way things work with the newsroom, newsgathering and nations all pulling together."
"It was a clean launch and it went very well indeed," said Mike Kavanagh, head of presentation, television news. "Lead by the England rugby team's victory parade through London, it was a big news day, which is just what we wanted.
"The relaunch is fantastic. A lot of people worked very hard on it. But it's not just about the look, it's also about the way things work with the newsroom, newsgathering and nations all pulling together."
SR
It's nice to see Alastair with a co-presenter - he doesn't normally get the chance to banter with anyone