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JA
james-2001
I always remember the ITV Schools animations from watching Story World at primary school... probably the first schools programme I watched after I started school (30 years ago now- ouch!), back when we still watched most schools TV "live" rather than on video. Also the first thing I knew Tony Robinson for, before becoming familiar with Maid Marian or Blackadder.

They always had a poster on the wall in the TV room that both ITV (then Channel 4 after 1993) and the BBC had sent them which had that years' schedule on it. Wish I could have been able to keep one of them!
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
Doing better than me, can't remember any of the damn programmes I saw. Always recall the "TV on a trolley" being wheeled into the classroom (or sitting somewhere to watch something, in the so-called "TV Space", which was just an open fronted area, since our school, and probably no doubt others in the mid to late 1980s, didn't have two pennies to rub together and in our case the dining room had to double up as a classroom). I know we saw programmes but I couldn't tell you what any of them were...
BR
Brekkie
Yes, only schools show ideally remember is Words and Pictures over on the BBC, and that is only due to the magic pencil.
RL
Running Late
I've enjoyed following this thread, but now I've got this one minute countdown music as an ear worm. Sad
MA
Markymark
Doing better than me, can't remember any of the damn programmes I saw. Always recall the "TV on a trolley" being wheeled into the classroom (or sitting somewhere to watch something, in the so-called "TV Space", which was just an open fronted area, since our school, and probably no doubt others in the mid to late 1980s, didn't have two pennies to rub together and in our case the dining room had to double up as a classroom). I know we saw programmes but I couldn't tell you what any of them were...


All I can remember are the countdown clocks, and none of the programmes!

Earliest memory is the BBC 'pie' from the 60s, that we watched on a 1950s 405 line telly

https://images.app.goo.gl/rTMtT9iug19AvZuFA

We got a 625 line telly when BBC1/ITV Hannington opened in 1971
BH
BillyH Founding member
Did we ever find out exactly when the pie chart was replaced by the diamond? There's been conflicting information around for years, some saying there was a colour pie chart, others that the diamond music started over the pie chart visuals a year or two earlier. Sadly the Sub-TV website disappeared a few years ago as that had some extremely rare clips from that era I haven't seen online since. Definitely sounds like it lasted well into the early 1970s at least.
JA
james-2001
I seem to remember reading the original version of The Journey was around 13 minutes long, and edited down to 6 minutes for ITV Schools- are there any copies of the 13 minute version out there?
SP
Steve in Pudsey
TV Ark reckons the pie lasted until 1974.

TVstudiohistory mentions that TC5, which was the home of Schools' programmes was one of the last studios at TVC to be colourised (in around 1973) because schools couldn't afford colour sets.
Markymark and BillyH gave kudos
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
I seem to remember reading the original version of The Journey was around 13 minutes long, and edited down to 6 minutes for ITV Schools- are there any copies of the 13 minute version out there?


It looks like it was available on the schoolstv website:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070706195144/http://www.schoolstv.com/itvschoolsons4c_music.shtml?1

(by presence of the text "Full Edit" and "TV Edit", presumably the latter is the six minute version and the other was the full 11/12/13 minute version) - but unfortunately the download link doesn't work Sad
MA
Markymark
Did we ever find out exactly when the pie chart was replaced by the diamond? There's been conflicting information around for years, some saying there was a colour pie chart, others that the diamond music started over the pie chart visuals a year or two earlier. Sadly the Sub-TV website disappeared a few years ago as that had some extremely rare clips from that era I haven't seen online since. Definitely sounds like it lasted well into the early 1970s at least.


Well, I started at school in Jan 69, so the pie chart must have still been going then.
BBC 1 went colour and launched the globe and mirror ident in Nov 69, so logically you expect the diamond to have replaced it then, or possibly start of term Jan 70?
BH
BillyH Founding member
I seem to remember reading the original version of The Journey was around 13 minutes long, and edited down to 6 minutes for ITV Schools- are there any copies of the 13 minute version out there?


It looks like it was available on the schoolstv website:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070706195144/http://www.schoolstv.com/itvschoolsons4c_music.shtml?1

(by presence of the text "Full Edit" and "TV Edit", presumably the latter is the six minute version and the other was the full 11/12/13 minute version) - but unfortunately the download link doesn't work Sad


SchoolsTV just had the six minute version I think, the 'TV Edit' was the same thing (or just an excerpt of) with some added percussion at the beginning.
BA
bilky asko
I seem to remember reading the original version of The Journey was around 13 minutes long, and edited down to 6 minutes for ITV Schools- are there any copies of the 13 minute version out there?


It looks like it was available on the schoolstv website:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070706195144/http://www.schoolstv.com/itvschoolsons4c_music.shtml?1

(by presence of the text "Full Edit" and "TV Edit", presumably the latter is the six minute version and the other was the full 11/12/13 minute version) - but unfortunately the download link doesn't work Sad


The "full edit" is listed as being on MHA-12. That disc contains one version of the track, at the 6:03 length.

Looking at the page, it references a longer version being a trick play.

Get some headphones and listen to the track. After about a minute and a half, listen to the track with one ear, then the other. You'll notice that certain instruments are on different tracks. This is what the page appears to be referring to, and presumably this 11 minute edit is simply the stereo track split down to mono, and combined into one long track.

EDIT: It also makes clear that the TV edit it presents is the 1-minute edit.
Last edited by bilky asko on 27 January 2021 9:46pm

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