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(October 2019)

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derek500
Have Sky News confirmed who is replacing Burley for the foreseeable?

Will be interesting to see how the morning slot changes brand wise, it seems on reflection dropping Sunrise was probably a mistake.

Stephen Dixon has posted on Instagram that he is doing early rundown for 3 months and then 3 months on Breakfast.


Hopefully they'll bring back a proper breakfast programme with news, sport and weather seven days a week.

One of Iain Dale's predictions for 2021 is that Burley won't return to the breakfast slot. Hope he's right.
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Worzel
Have Sky News confirmed who is replacing Burley for the foreseeable?

Will be interesting to see how the morning slot changes brand wise, it seems on reflection dropping Sunrise was probably a mistake.

Stephen Dixon has posted on Instagram that he is doing early rundown for 3 months and then 3 months on Breakfast.


Hopefully they'll bring back a proper breakfast programme with news, sport and weather seven days a week.


'Sunrise' would make a great Breakfast brand name. There you go Sky News, no expense spared. Wink
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what
Moving on to a more interesting topic, which might be the date of inauguration, of the new Sky News logo.

So if I understand you correctly, they’ll be launching the new logo on Biden’s inauguration day? Where have you heard this?
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rob Founding member
what posted:
Moving on to a more interesting topic, which might be the date of inauguration, of the new Sky News logo.

So if I understand you correctly, they’ll be launching the new logo on Biden’s inauguration day? Where have you heard this?


No it won't be.
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CraigWills
Have Sky News confirmed who is replacing Burley for the foreseeable?

Will be interesting to see how the morning slot changes brand wise, it seems on reflection dropping Sunrise was probably a mistake.

Stephen Dixon has posted on Instagram that he is doing early rundown for 3 months and then 3 months on Breakfast.


Interesting that they’re presumably giving it to Niall for 3 months but then changing to Stephen for the next three months. Maybe there is a little bit of forward planning, seeing what works, and then see what happens after the six months.
EPG has been updated to reference no presenter for Early Rundown or Sky News Breakfast on weekdays. Sky News Breakfast on weekends now just says Gillian Joseph.

Have Sky News confirmed who is replacing Burley for the foreseeable?

Will be interesting to see how the morning slot changes brand wise, it seems on reflection dropping Sunrise was probably a mistake.

Niall for now, and it is sort-of branded as Sky News Breakfast... sometimes.


I’ve said it before but this is an area Sky lacks at the minute. As it stands, the EPG calls it Sky News Breakfast despite that not been referenced on screen by the graphics or presenter during the slot, however other anchors say “xxx is joining Niall on Sky News Breakfast”. There’s also the issue that the “Sky News Breakfast” name is used for the weekend show which has a different format.

Calling it @Breakfast was always a bit of backwards move, when the BBC show at the same time it’s just known as “Breakfast” to most. Get rid of Sky News Breakfast branding, reintroduce Sunrise on weekends (is the current weekend slot any different to what it was under ‘sunrise’?). And give the weekday slot a new name; The Morning Agenda/The Morning Briefing - giving it something which reflects the Westminster location they like to push and the whole ‘agenda setting’ interviews that the promotional material mentioned.
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fusionlad Founding member
Sky regularly talking to NBC reporters in Washington DC at the moment. The satellite delay though is huuuuuge. Anyone know the path that these links would be taking?
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Technologist
is it satliete alone or through the 4G network - most simple "Lives" from Overseas are 4G....
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fusionlad Founding member
is it satliete alone or through the 4G network - most simple "Lives" from Overseas are 4G....

The delay and quality made me think satellite.
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valley
Sky regularly talking to NBC reporters in Washington DC at the moment. The satellite delay though is huuuuuge. Anyone know the path that these links would be taking?

Depends, but many of the location ones will be camera LiveU (or similar) -> NBC NOC -> Sky NOC -> Sky gallery. Presumably backhauled from the US to the UK over satellite.
Oh, and when being introduced via a screen, there will be an additional delay due to screen processing.
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harshy Founding member
Which satellite would this be I like to try Smile
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noggin Founding member
Sky regularly talking to NBC reporters in Washington DC at the moment. The satellite delay though is huuuuuge. Anyone know the path that these links would be taking?

Depends, but many of the location ones will be camera LiveU (or similar) -> NBC NOC -> Sky NOC -> Sky gallery. Presumably backhauled from the US to the UK over satellite.
Oh, and when being introduced via a screen, there will be an additional delay due to screen processing.


BBC US->UK backhaul has been fibre for literally decades (they backhaul US SNG downlinks in the ASI domain rather than baseband video, then ASI decode and standards convert in the UK) - what makes you think Sky are using satellite for their US->UK circuits?

AIUI Sky are heavily into IP connectivity - with an IP MCR for Sky News - so I wouldn't be surprised if they had IP connectivity over fibre IP circuits for transatlantic stuff, with some presence in an NBC MCR or two?

Screen processing is usually only a few frames - and you can normally spot it as there is a sound-sync issue with the reporter in the screen (unless they also delay full-screen version and audio to match the screen delay)

These days codec and FEC/buffer protection delays on IP contributions can be significantly more than the delay introduced by satellite paths. (Particularly if you have to do a double encode/decode plus a standards conversion en-route). From memory an Alchemist adds around 9-10 frames of 50Hz audio delay on a 59.94->50Hz conversion.
fusionlad, valley and UKnews gave kudos
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aaron_scotland
If this is the NBC reporter you mean, it looks like a working from home setup with a TV backdrop, Can't imagine its over satellite.

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