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Brekkie Wales Wales Today
Just watched the ITV News report now (Robert Moore inside the Capitol Building). Incredible scenes. And an excellent piece of coverage from ITN.

While I stand by my view this warranted coverage on BBC1/ITV last night, I suspect had ITV been in rolling news mode last night a report such as this just wouldn't have been possible.
Be nicer and more tolerant to each other. Them's the rules.
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johnnyboy Founding member Tyne Tees Look North (North East)

And this here is the problem, people not tolerating other views. I’m no Trump fan, but there’s a significant number of people who believe Trump was ‘cheated’.

It’s important to understand their point of view for ‘balance’.

This isn’t a clear cut issue like climate change coverage. Climate change deniers should not be interviewed for ‘balance’ - they have been scientifically proved wrong. These ‘mobsters’ should have their voice heard.

There’s a real issue now. Social media encourages partisan views of the world- people have forgotten how to be analytical and know it’s okay to disagree but understand people are entitled to different view than theirs.

Anyway, back on topic...

Any videos of how the American networks broke into coverage?


I don't want this to turn into a heated Trump debate, but if you read your post back to yourself, you'll realise how silly it sounds. The example of climate change can be used with the US election. Twitter is a great example of this, with its new feature highlighting false news. ALL claims of voter fraud and corruption have been proved incorrect. Courts have listened to the claims and thrown them out. Republicans have - in large percentages - agreed the claims are nonsense. So, just like climate change, there should be no time or space afforded to people who attempt to thwart democracy. The only time that should be allotted in news to coverage of such scenes and claims is to explain, with facts, why they're wrong. It's what the BBC would do if this was happening in Pakistan or the Middle East.


But this is unprecedented.
Thousands of people wrongly believe Trumps lies. That is a fact. But to deny their point of view, or an exploration of why they’ve been mislead misses a great deal of what’s occurring.

This is not just a handful of people. These people have either been mislead or, fundamentally have genuine reason to believe they are being hard done to/feel threatened by the other side.

Don’t you think hearing their arguments, however factually wrong they may be, helps with the understanding of how America has become so bitter and divided? As long as the reporting makes clear that there was no election fraud.

Hitler/Saddam were very wrong, but millions of people were coerced into believing they were right and did their bidding. Should historians discount their accounts too?

Their views, should be aired but importantly qualified or rebutted.


You're correct.

I am still in astonishment at last night's scenes but they are a result of a feeling of alienation and disenfranchisement.

From my understanding, 62 courts have said that there is no substance to the claims of widespread fraud.

However, and for whatever reason, this isn't enough to placate these people. Perhaps nothing will ever placate them but a serious attempt should be made to re-engage them for the sake of societal cohesion.

With the climate change argument, I agree that it is happening, it's worrying, and that something should be done about it as soon as possible. I have a 5 year old and an 8 year old and I want them to live in the cleanest world possible.

However, climate change scientists have been saying repeatedly since the 1980s that we only have 10 years to sort things out. Unfortunately, I am old enough to remember this.

While many of their predictions are accurate, many are wildly inaccurate.

How you balance that on the news is difficult though. Would it be one uptight climate change scientists versus one more laid-back climate change scientist? It needs a finer mind than mine to solve that riddle.
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AJB39
Robert Moore’s report has just been broadcast by CNN.
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Markymark Meridian (Thames Valley) South Today
AJB39 posted:
Robert Moore’s report has just been broadcast by CNN.


It's good to see the 'DNA' of 1970s/80s ITN, is still alive
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mark Founding member Granada North West Today
NBC's Today Show went on air an hour early, at 6am ET, with Savannah Guthrie in Washington and Hoda Kotb in New York.



The coverage is being simulcast on NBC News Now.
Looks like Good Morning America and CBS This Morning are starting at 7am ET as usual.
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valley
mark posted:
NBC's Today Show went on air an hour early, at 6am ET, with Savannah Guthrie in Washington and Hoda Kotb in New York.



The coverage is being simulcast on NBC News Now.
Looks like Good Morning America and CBS This Morning are starting at 7am ET as usual.

Seems like Sky News is taking NBC's Today Show at 12:00... instead of Sky News Today. Not at all confusing!
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Gibsy Granada North West Today
Not confusing at all, they announced before it began.
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valley
Gibsy posted:
Not confusing at all, they announced before it began.

Yep, they did indeed both before and after the break. Thought they might have gone straight to the Today show, but there was an in-vision throw.
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Blake Connolly Founding member London London
They cut away when Today went to the weather and unfortunately came back just as they were throwing to a commercial break and caught a chunk of it. Hopefully they should've had an AD listen line to know when breaks are coming (though some are better at that than others). Makes me feel a bit better about my efforts avoiding ad breaks when TXing American sport!
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aaron_scotland Central Reporting Scotland
They cut away when Today went to the weather and unfortunately came back just as they were throwing to a commercial break and caught a chunk of it. Hopefully they should've had an AD listen line to know when breaks are coming (though some are better at that than others). Makes me feel a bit better about my efforts avoiding ad breaks when TXing American sport!


Been a pretty messy 15 mins, it was a nice thought but they should drop the simulcast it isn't working.
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Critique Anglia (East) Look East
Quite satisfying how neatly Sky’s clock and ticker align neatly with the bottom of Today’s straps and logo (even if the straps don’t align with the clock).
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mark Founding member Granada North West Today
It's reminded me of how Sky News used to show half an hour of CBS This Morning back in the 90s at either 12.30 or 1.30. I'm not sure if it was a live simulcast back then, though.

There was one day when the Sky News studio fell off air due to massive technical issues at Sky Centre, so they ended up taking CBS This Morning instead.

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