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LL
London Lite Founding member
cityprod posted:
London Lite posted:
cityprod posted:
Fox affiliates and Sinclair owned stations, are two examples of a Conservative bias infecting local news. You have to be careful who you trust when it comes to local news.


When did you last watch a Fox owned affiliate? They're NOTHING like Fox News. There's zero Conservative bias in their reporting of the election. It's like watching NBC News over MSNBC.

Fox owned affiliates tend to want to compete on a equal level editorially with the other non-biased stations in their local markets, rather than be a satellite feed of propaganda like FNC.

There's your factual error for someone who claims to watch a shed load of US media in deepest Cornwall.


I keep an eye on several Fox affiliates and local stations, watching various reports and programmes from time to time. Several years ago, when he was still at Fox, Roger Ailes was appointed to lead the local stations group, whilst still being the head of Fox News Channel and ever since then, Fox News Channel has supplied the local Fox affiliates with stories and occasionally reports as well. Fox News Channel would also provide breaking news coverage as well. The bias was clear there. Also, many local Fox stations do take a more Conservative slant on news selection, it's not as severe as Fox News Channel, but again, it does move the needle.

Also, you don't help your case by talking about "deepest Cornwall" like it's in some forgotten part of Africa. Cornwall is not a backwater, despite what some on the right would like it to be.


You'll find I'm not on the right or the left. Considering you couldn't even programme a community radio show, filling it with James Bond, I find it hard to take your monitoring with a pinch of salt.
CI
cityprod
London Lite posted:
cityprod posted:
London Lite posted:

When did you last watch a Fox owned affiliate? They're NOTHING like Fox News. There's zero Conservative bias in their reporting of the election. It's like watching NBC News over MSNBC.

Fox owned affiliates tend to want to compete on a equal level editorially with the other non-biased stations in their local markets, rather than be a satellite feed of propaganda like FNC.

There's your factual error for someone who claims to watch a shed load of US media in deepest Cornwall.


I keep an eye on several Fox affiliates and local stations, watching various reports and programmes from time to time. Several years ago, when he was still at Fox, Roger Ailes was appointed to lead the local stations group, whilst still being the head of Fox News Channel and ever since then, Fox News Channel has supplied the local Fox affiliates with stories and occasionally reports as well. Fox News Channel would also provide breaking news coverage as well. The bias was clear there. Also, many local Fox stations do take a more Conservative slant on news selection, it's not as severe as Fox News Channel, but again, it does move the needle.

Also, you don't help your case by talking about "deepest Cornwall" like it's in some forgotten part of Africa. Cornwall is not a backwater, despite what some on the right would like it to be.


You'll find I'm not on the right or the left. Considering you couldn't even programme a community radio show, filling it with James Bond, I find it hard to take your monitoring with a pinch of salt.


You really seem to hate the idea that someone could do a topical radio show, and do a couple of programmes to build up to the release of a new James Bond film. I dunno why you're so obsessed over those shows, community radio is as much about doing something that more mainstream stations wouldn't do, as it is about serving the community. But just for you, I'm planning another James Bond special when No Time To Die is finally released, probably in about 2030 given the current state of the global fubar...

Also, I didn't say you were on the right. Look again, at what I said.

Oh, and maybe you should try a pinch of sugar, if you're finding it hard to take with a pinch of salt.
LL
London Lite Founding member
cityprod posted:
London Lite posted:
cityprod posted:

I keep an eye on several Fox affiliates and local stations, watching various reports and programmes from time to time. Several years ago, when he was still at Fox, Roger Ailes was appointed to lead the local stations group, whilst still being the head of Fox News Channel and ever since then, Fox News Channel has supplied the local Fox affiliates with stories and occasionally reports as well. Fox News Channel would also provide breaking news coverage as well. The bias was clear there. Also, many local Fox stations do take a more Conservative slant on news selection, it's not as severe as Fox News Channel, but again, it does move the needle.

Also, you don't help your case by talking about "deepest Cornwall" like it's in some forgotten part of Africa. Cornwall is not a backwater, despite what some on the right would like it to be.


You'll find I'm not on the right or the left. Considering you couldn't even programme a community radio show, filling it with James Bond, I find it hard to take your monitoring with a pinch of salt.


You really seem to hate the idea that someone could do a topical radio show, and do a couple of programmes to build up to the release of a new James Bond film. I dunno why you're so obsessed over those shows, community radio is as much about doing something that more mainstream stations wouldn't do, as it is about serving the community. But just for you, I'm planning another James Bond special when No Time To Die is finally released, probably in about 2030 given the current state of the global fubar...


I can't wait.

52 days later

MO
Mouseboy33
It never ends with FOX "News". Because their hosts and former reputable journalists, like Maria Bartiromo, have been pushing the false narrative of voting software fraud, Fox, OANN, NewsMax are all being, rightly, threatened with a defamation lawsuit by a voting software company. So with their tail between their legs Fox has been trying to back track. In regards to OANN and NewsMax if the lawsuit goes ahead this could really put a dent in these channels since they are run on a shoestring budget.
The lawyer representing the voting software company is the same lawyer that won a massive lawsuit against ABCNews when they used the phrase "pink slime" in reference to a beef producer.


Quote:
In an era of brazen political lies, Mr. Mugica has emerged as an unlikely figure with the power to put the genie back in the bottle. Last week, his lawyer sent scathing letters to the Fox News Channel, Newsmax and OAN demanding that they immediately, forcefully clear his company’s name — and that they retain documents for a planned defamation lawsuit. He has, legal experts say, an unusually strong case. And his new lawyer is J. Erik Connolly, who not coincidentally won the largest settlement in the history of American media defamation in 2017, at least $177 million, for a beef producer whose “lean finely textured beef” was described by ABC News as “pink slime.”


Quote:
Mr. Mugica isn’t the only potential plaintiff. Dominion Voting Systems has hired another high-powered libel lawyer, Tom Clare, who has threatened legal action against Ms. Powell and the Trump campaign. Mr. Clare said in an emailed statement that “we are moving forward on the basis that she will not retract those false statements and that it will be necessary for Dominion to take aggressive legal action, both against Ms. Powell and the many others who have enabled and amplified her campaign of defamation by spreading damaging falsehoods about Dominion.”

Pillocks!

The NY Times has nicely written article about it. If i happens I'm here for and would to see the lawsuit proceed. These creepy weird quasi-"news" channel have been damaging in so many ways.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/20/business/media/smartmatic-lawsuit-fox-news-newsmax-oan.html

short version from Tvnewser
https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/voting-software-company-smartmatic-says-it-might-sue-fox-news-newsmax-and-one-america-news/466054/
Last edited by Mouseboy33 on 21 December 2020 5:24pm
MO
Mouseboy33
Because of the looming lawsuit. They are all backtracking... amazing...this just aired on NewsMax. Fools.


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IS
Inspector Sands
There's a phrase from the old days of The Sun: Reverse Ferret!

I doubt the retractions will be enough, the accusations can't be contained just by a few TV channels retracting what they said. They're out there in the wild and also even those who do believe them and have seen the clarifications possibly don't want to believe them. Like all such conspiracies the untruths are just more compelling than the truths.


What's wrong with a big pencil X on a bit of paper I'll never know
Last edited by Inspector Sands on 22 December 2020 8:48am - 2 times in total
MO
Mouseboy33
Everything about this is shocking. The US has never seen multiple "news" organizations push a false narrative in this modern age. US newspapers in modern days are largely straightdown the middle and dont have a tabloid/yellow leaning (the exceptions, NY Post). So to have clear and blatant retractions without really stating they are retractions is foul. Because they are trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube. But are trying to clear it up without accepting blame. I've read/seen real journalists retractions. Basically: We, this newspaper/channel messed up and we didnt do our job, we are sorry, we will do better blah blah blah.
What these channels are doing is try to gloss over the fact they are liars and its cowardly act to not state they lied (cant say they screwed up because it wasnt as thought they fumbled their newsgathering.) They just plainly lied. Disgusting. But the uneducated fools that follow these channels will ignore this and continue to drink their Gobbels-flavoured Koolaid. Choke on it!
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MO
Mouseboy33
While NewsMax and Fox has stepped back, the idiots at OANN has not done so. And they are still pushing this. This aired yesterday, allowing a guest to continue pushing these sick wild theories. The lawsuit needs to be delivered to their front doors on a silver platter.





Foolish, irresponsible idiots! There is no other word to use.
JO
Jon
Mouseboy33 posted:
Because of the looming lawsuit. They are all backtracking... amazing...this just aired on NewsMax. Fools.



I like the way they had to clarify Smartmatic isn’t owned by someone who’s been dead for the best part of a decade.
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CI
cityprod
I have to feel that this “backtracking “, aka trying to have their cake and eat it too, will not be enough to stop the impending lawsuit, and if it does go ahead, the right wing media machine will be exposed to the general public for the first time ever. From CNS, formerly the Cybercast News Service, a subsidiary of the Media Research Center, through to the broadcasters themselves, the whole rotten, fetid Kraken network of organisations that have worked together to undermine the media will be exposed in a way that they have never been before, and I cannot wait to watch the whole rats nest unravel.
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MO
Mouseboy33
Sadly, even if the lawsuits go ahead and they are successful and in the least OANN/NewsMax shuts down.... The indoctrinated numpties that follow these channels since they fled FNC will be out in the streets, screaming: "Conspiracy! CNN had our channel shut down." They can join the column of flat-eathers and anti-vaxxers. UGH!
GL
globaltraffic24
Mouseboy33 posted:
Sadly, even if the lawsuits go ahead and they are successful and in the least OANN/NewsMax shuts down.... The indoctrinated numpties that follow these channels since they fled FNC will be out in the streets, screaming: "Conspiracy! CNN had our channel shut down." They can join the column of flat-eathers and anti-vaxxers. UGH!


You're right, but the funny thing about stupid people is that they quickly forget and move on. Without any semi-legit media sources, they lose the legitimacy and back-up. Facebook's a great example. All it has to do to cut off the lunacy is prevent people from being able to share links to fringe websites. I can go online now and post a conspiracy. If it's just me saying it, it's all a bit lame. If I say it, with a link (and pretty link picture) through to what appears like an official news source, it creates a profound degree of legitimacy. Cut the source and the water will eventually stop flowing!

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