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TheMike
What does the North America feed show during the time it opts out from Asia business?


Talking about nostalgia: what was the difference between the generic programmes and Europe Direct / USA Direct previous to the 2000 rebranding? Was USA Direct a proto World News America live from Washington? I never saw recordings from both programmes

Europe Direct was originally a one hour News 24/World simulcast at 2000 UK. (Remarkable given all the fuss when Outside Source was simulcast two decades later).

It included a news bulletin, sports round-up, reports, interviews and discussions, alongside a full European weather forecast near the end.

Presented from the News 24 soft-set (used for Weekend 24), and located where Philip Hayton was doing Asia Today several years later in that video upthread!

A more informal affair than the traditional BBC World News bulletins of the time. News coverage of the Kosovo War led it being recorded and played out on World later in the evening in 1998 in a 50 minute slot, before being reduced to 30 minutes and then turned into a weekly magazine programme before vanishing altogether.

USA Direct (0005 UK) again was more informal and marked BBC World's advancement into the USA in 1997, following a distribution deal with Discovery. Until then, BBC World wasn't really available in the Americas - just Europe, Africa and Asia-Pacific - reflected in the time zones displayed in trailers during the 1995-1997 era.

It was the start of a battle for that timeslot, between catering for the Asia-Pacific morning audience and catering for the USA evening audience. The resolution of this battle is that nowadays, the North America feed opts out of Asia Business Report and Sport Today for three consecutive hours between 2300 & 0200 UK.

Asia Business Report and Sport Today are replaced at 2330, 0030, 0130 in America with repeats of World News America, current affairs and lifestyle programmes (Our World, Click).

13 days later

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itsrobert Founding member
Quite rare to see a full bulletin of BBC World News from 1996:



I've never heard of this presenter before - Melinda Wittstock.
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TheMike
Quite rare to see a full bulletin of BBC World News from 1996:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ViMVaFA3YM

I've never heard of this presenter before - Melinda Wittstock.

Prior to appearing on BBC World, Melinda Wittstock presented FT Business Tonight on Super Channel.

(FT Business Tonight's timeslot was ultimately taken over by a simulcast of CNBC's US Money Wheel in 1994, while FT became involved with the launch of the European Money Wheel in Jan 1995, as part of CNBC's expansion, before it spun off on to a channel of its own. European Money Wheel was fronted by Michiel Bicker Caarten and a certain Tanya Beckett, Melinda moved to BBC World.)
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TheMike
A clip from BBC News 24's Science Watch from 1998. Of course, being TVForum you'll probably be watching this just for the good quality shots of the original N9 set as seen from some very different angles to those used for the rolling news service...

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Robert Williams Founding member
In an early News 24 schedule I have both a Science Review and a Science Matters co-existing, but no Science Watch... Science Review still existed around 2000, maybe it was Science Watch renamed?
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AaronLancs
Can I ask what may be a stupid question about BBC World in 2000?


When they were in N9, which is this at the start of the year:

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Source: TV LIve (https://tv-live.co.uk/news/bbc-news/bbc-national-news/bbc-world-news/bbc-world-1997-2000/)

And then they ended it like this:

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Source: Original TV Ark Video - Self Screengrab (https://www.tvark.org/?page=2299) [Hosted on imgBB]

The question is which studio did they use in the transition period (still Flags era) while the set was being built (into cream and red) and how long did it take to do?
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Steve in Pudsey
Isn't that first picture an overnight simulcast with News24 from N9 (probably a little earlier than 2000)? I think at that point World were still in N1.

N8 was built, News 24 moved in which vacated N9 to have a new set for World.
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noggin Founding member
Isn't that first picture an overnight simulcast with News24 from N9 (probably a little earlier than 2000)? I think at that point World were still in N1.

I don't think so - Lyndsey Brancher wasn't a regular overnight presenter between Nov 1997 and Nov 1998 when BBC News 24 was in N9 (though it wasn't called N9 at the time).

BBC World retained the flags look when they moved in sometime in early 1999.

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N8 was built, News 24 moved in which vacated N9 to have a new set for World.


Yes - but the original BBC World set in 1999 was still flags era and I don't think they newsroom artwork was hugely changed?
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noggin Founding member

Europe Direct was originally a one hour News 24/World simulcast at 2000 UK. (Remarkable given all the fuss when Outside Source was simulcast two decades later).


If you want to be precise, technically Europe Direct was originally a show broadcast on BBC World only, as it launched on BBC World a week or two before BBC News 24 launched ISTR.
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itsrobert Founding member
What Aaron is asking about is how World redesigned N9 in April 2000 when they transitioned from the flags era to the red and cream era. World had moved into N9 towards the end of 1998 or so after News 24 had vacated it for N8.

I can't say for certain what happened as I didn't see it at the time, but I can tell you that the next time they refreshed N9 in August 2001 they did it in a weekend and joint bulletins went out from News 24 on both channels. Back then they did joint weekends every now and then when maintenance was needed on either of the studios. They tended to use the overnight branding for those joint bulletins. I distinctly remember another occasion when World moved into a CSO set-up for a weekend in about 2001 as well. No idea which studio they would have used for that but they must have had options available. And, of course, News 24 did a similar thing when they significantly redesigned N8 towards the end of 2003. They moved into a CSO set-up in TC10 for a number of weeks.

In fact, I've just found these screen grabs I took of World's CSO set-up from one of the weekends when they must have had to move out of N9. Probably from about 2003 or so I would say given that Caroline Hawley was in Baghdad.

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TheMike
At each studio change in October 1998, 1999 and the end of March 2000, World and News 24 had weekend simulcasts.

October 1998 - World joins News 24 in its new studio N8, while World moves in to N9.
October 1999 - News 24 returns to N9 while its set is changed.
March 2000 - World joins News 24. N9 is revamped.
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noggin Founding member
It's entirely possible that World used N6 for their temporary CSO weekends in 2001-ish, with BBC One bulletins coming from TC7?.

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