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NE
Newsroom
I don't see why Marr can't move to Westminster. I think that studio is underused as it is. Seems versatile enough that the desk can be moved around (as seen when the 6 and 10) came from it. Would anyone know how much floor space there is at the Westminster?

Other than it's not staffed on Sundays, you mean?

It's less space than Studio E at NBH, so unless you would wish to see a 'Peston' style interview format with Marr at one end of the desk and the guest at the other end . . . I don't see how that would improve on the current bad situation.


Like most people, I'm totally unaware of what is staffed and what it not at the weekend so thanks for the insight, and that of the size of the studio itself.

There is the argument that the Westminster studio itself hasn't been seen the majority of viewers so with that in mind and with it being underused, it's surely an option to reducing the amount the demands of E at the moment. I agree with other members here that E will age far quicker with the way things are currently going.
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CM
cmthwtv West Country (East) Points West
I think it's just going to remain in E. If it returns their in September for the new season as such, then I think we will have our answer.

I love E, and it beats other studios from other TV programmes by miles, but when it's used for the flagship three news programmes, the flagship Sunday morning programme which is meant to spark debate and conversation, a late night programme that was once all about grilling politicians and the news channel during the day - is it not going to age very quickly? It's 7 years old as it is, before we know it we will have Huw Edwards presenting Strictly from in there...
AS
AlexS Central (East) Midlands Today
I think it's just going to remain in E. If it returns their in September for the new season as such, then I think we will have our answer.

I love E, and it beats other studios from other TV programmes by miles, but when it's used for the flagship three news programmes, the flagship Sunday morning programme which is meant to spark debate and conversation, a late night programme that was once all about grilling politicians and the news channel during the day - is it not going to age very quickly? It's 7 years old as it is, before we know it we will have Huw Edwards presenting Strictly from in there...

It's actually currently on air for shorter hours than it was at launch (08:27-0:31 if you include the rehearsal time for the six and ten which would have it lit as though it was on air for much of the hour) so technically there shouldn't be any problems with the current usage that would cause it to age quicker (except perhaps the curtain used for Newsnight that was never designed for regular use). I also doubt that it will age any quicker in the minds of the vast majority of casual viewers of the major bulletins as these people won't really see in on air any more than they do at present and those who are likely to be exposed to the studio on a more frequent basis will not on the whole care about where the programmes are being broadcast from.
The bigger question is probably with regards to studio C as that is currently on air or ready to be on air with no notice from 13:00-10:00 on weekdays but would usually be off air between 12:00 and 17:00 and 20:00-22:00, although C has always been on air every hour from 17:00 on Friday until 12:00 Monday so is clearly designed for long periods of uninterrupted up time.
NE
Newsroom
I think it's just going to remain in E. If it returns their in September for the new season as such, then I think we will have our answer.

I love E, and it beats other studios from other TV programmes by miles, but when it's used for the flagship three news programmes, the flagship Sunday morning programme which is meant to spark debate and conversation, a late night programme that was once all about grilling politicians and the news channel during the day - is it not going to age very quickly? It's 7 years old as it is, before we know it we will have Huw Edwards presenting Strictly from in there...


I think I love ' studio E' might have been a better choice of words than 'I love E'. Very Happy

It was clearly designed so it won't be mothballed anytime soon, easily upgradable, but there was one member who suggested he/she would stop watching Marr/Newsnight if it carried on, hence me referring to it ageing. Remember, in previous years, decades, BBC News overhauls have been quite regular, usually within a decade.

Stools for example as seen on Victoria Derbyshire could easily overcome the social distancing issues. I bet you could get 3 guests on that catwalk and another at the desk. Just one idea.
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AS
AlexS Central (East) Midlands Today
I think it's just going to remain in E. If it returns their in September for the new season as such, then I think we will have our answer.

I love E, and it beats other studios from other TV programmes by miles, but when it's used for the flagship three news programmes, the flagship Sunday morning programme which is meant to spark debate and conversation, a late night programme that was once all about grilling politicians and the news channel during the day - is it not going to age very quickly? It's 7 years old as it is, before we know it we will have Huw Edwards presenting Strictly from in there...


I think I love 'studio E' might have been a better choice of words than 'I love E'. Very Happy

It was clearly designed so it won't be mothballed anytime soon, easily upgradable, but there was one member who suggested he/she would stop watching Marr/Newsnight if it carried on, hence me referring to it ageing. Remember, in previous years, decades, BBC News overhauls have been quite regular, usually within a decade.

Stools for example as seen on Victoria Derbyshire could easily overcome the social distancing issues. I bet you could get 3 guests on that catwalk and another at the desk. Just one idea.

What we have to remember that, especially in a time of cuts, the BBC shouldn't be focussing on keeping the small minority of viewers that are watching in the hope of seeing a new graphic or camera angle. Unfortunately for most of us on this site who do enjoy seeing such changes most people wouldn't even notice such changes let alone care about them which makes them a very low priority when resources are limited. While I would agree that in person interviewing tends to work better when it comes to politicians and other serious interviews that can be done just as easily from E as any other studio, whether that be from the desk or over on the catwalk. At the same time it is fair to say that certain other types of interviews such as paper reviews are working just fine remotely and for such interviews the possible benefits such as being able to use a wider pool of interviewees (as you are no longer limited to those who live close enough to the studio and are physically able to appear in person) and the reduced costs probably make it worthwhile to continue with such features remotely.
JF
JF World News (previously JPF) West Country (East) Points West
Outside Source is the sort of show that would work well in conjunction with regular bulletins as the back half hour filler but doesn't work so well as the bulletin itself.

I think as talked about a couple of weeks back reworking Beyond 100 Days and OutsideSource into a new evening programme designed to be simulcast would be the best thing to do.

My controversial suggestion: they should bring back the former World News Today's format where they take a no nonsense comprehensive look at the day's news. The current WNT is nothing like the original(s) (range of stories, 30 min vs. 1 hr).
And world news will be world news. Not focused on a couple of stories that must have a connection to America. UK politics/international relations could fit seamlessly if it tried fitting a few more stories about places other than just America and the UK. But this might not appeal to young people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4ChQ5FzCO8
The days when BBC World (News) used to look beyond America and trivial social media trends.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Fbv7IK91R8


Agree with you and Nancy would make a good presenter, the idea of expanding to seven days a week in 2015 was it to be the flagship daily evening news programme for Europe, Africa and Middle East. "in-depth global analysis with World News Today. Already a well-established BBC brand around the world, the programme will also bring sport and business news via the BBC’s network of multimedia, multilingual reporters." It could work as a daily programme at 7pm on BBC News Channel & BBC World News,

I know I've upset people in the past nice to have someone agree
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JW
JamesWorldNews STV Central World News
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NG
noggin Founding member
I don't see why Marr can't move to Westminster. I think that studio is underused as it is. Seems versatile enough that the desk can be moved around (as seen when the 6 and 10) came from it. Would anyone know how much floor space there is at the Westminster?

Other than it's not staffed on Sundays, you mean?

It's less space than Studio E at NBH, so unless you would wish to see a 'Peston' style interview format with Marr at one end of the desk and the guest at the other end . . . I don't see how that would improve on the current bad situation.


Like most people, I'm totally unaware of what is staffed and what it not at the weekend so thanks for the insight, and that of the size of the studio itself.

There is the argument that the Westminster studio itself hasn't been seen the majority of viewers so with that in mind and with it being underused, it's surely an option to reducing the amount the demands of E at the moment. I agree with other members here that E will age far quicker with the way things are currently going.


Studio E requires minimal staffing (it has 100% automation and 100% remote cameras), the BBC Westminster studio requires significantly more staffing AIUI (although it has Mosart it doesn't have the same flexibility in automation terms).

In the current climate of cost-cutting I don't see increasing transmission costs being on the agenda, at least in the short term.
JA
james-2001 Central (East) East Midlands Today
I think I love 'studio E' might have been a better choice of words than 'I love E'. Very Happy

BB
bbc247 London London
Outside Source is the sort of show that would work well in conjunction with regular bulletins as the back half hour filler but doesn't work so well as the bulletin itself.

I think as talked about a couple of weeks back reworking Beyond 100 Days and OutsideSource into a new evening programme designed to be simulcast would be the best thing to do.

My controversial suggestion: they should bring back the former World News Today's format where they take a no nonsense comprehensive look at the day's news. The current WNT is nothing like the original(s) (range of stories, 30 min vs. 1 hr).
And world news will be world news. Not focused on a couple of stories that must have a connection to America. UK politics/international relations could fit seamlessly if it tried fitting a few more stories about places other than just America and the UK. But this might not appeal to young people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4ChQ5FzCO8
The days when BBC World (News) used to look beyond America and trivial social media trends.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Fbv7IK91R8


Agree with you and Nancy would make a good presenter, the idea of expanding to seven days a week in 2015 was it to be the flagship daily evening news programme for Europe, Africa and Middle East. "in-depth global analysis with World News Today. Already a well-established BBC brand around the world, the programme will also bring sport and business news via the BBC’s network of multimedia, multilingual reporters." It could work as a daily programme at 7pm on BBC News Channel & BBC World News,

I know I've upset people in the past nice to have someone agree


I think WNT just started to become another bulletin of World News rather than a separate programme. The format even as a half hour bulletin was great when it first moved to NBH with the BBC Four edition, when you still had the old presenters like Zeinab, Kasia, Phillipa and Tim doing it. They used to take things into more depth and really analyse stories well with great interviews. Recently, in the last few years it started to dumb down to just a World News bulletin with different music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIj-gVVszXo
VA
valley
Sky News took George W. Bush speaking at John Lewis' funeral. Did World also take it?
BB
bbc247 London London
On a separate note, on the format of BBC News going forward, I really do hope certain programmes do come back.

Beyond 100 Days will become even more relevant around the upcoming presidential election and I'm sure there is a market for a double-headed London/Washington programme that takes an in-depth look at the ever murky depths of US Politics, albeit a name change wouldn't go amiss.

Newsday I'm sure is a highly valued breakfast programme for viewers in Asia, and especially with changing Anglo-Sino and US-Sino relations and the ever-increasing news on China, a London/Singapore programme arguably has even more place now than ever before. Sometimes it takes that regional knowledge, expertise and access to really get to the heart of the stories.

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