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Costa & Coop p68: Repeats on ITV3: Are there too many spoilers? (June 2016)

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DJ
DJ Dave
So I've been trying to consider what I'd do if I got the keys to Corrie as a producer and realised why I am not a television producer.

Firstly, I'd give Ken his own home and put him in a relationship with Rita (gradually built up over a few months with natural chemistry.) I'd get them to move in together at No 1 and kick the rest of the residents out of that household for now. It'd be really nice to see some older characters in a genuinely warm long term relationship and I think Ken's understated personality and Rita's larger than life one could seriously complement eachother.



Staying with Barlows I'd keep Carla and Peter together but move them out of the pub and into another house on the street, making Peter do another job that isn't as daft as a former alcoholic running a pub. Perhaps take over a bookies or one of the shops. Lastly with regards to the Barlows - I'd send Tracy and Amy off to live somewhere else other than Corrie and make rare visits for a few years, if any. Simon can go to university and come back with a new head around his 21st birthday when he's graduated.



Gail and Audrey can stay but I'd get her to finally kick the younger members of the Platt household out of the bleeding TARDIS including David, Sarah, Beth, Max and when she returrns to normal Shona. They can move into the Vic Street flats or somewhere.



I'd split Sally and Tim up and get her to reconcile with Kevin at last. The retirement home would be abandoned with older cast members moving back to the street or surrounding streets. Daniel would come out and end up in a relationship with James Bailey.



I'd properly pair Norris and Mary up.



I'd bring in a load of couples in their 20s and early 30s to buy up/rent the houses on Coronation Street. A couple of lesbian couples, a 5 person mixed-race consensual bigamist relationship involving three men and two women, a new loner who turns out to be planning to blow up his own house on the street in protest a rent increases, a gay couple, an elderly lady moving in with her 21 year old toy-boy. An ex army tough-man who is miserable, suffering from PTSD and hates everybody but eventually becomes Weatherfield's biggest swinging life of the party. Some south east asian characters.



The rovers would be taking over by a returning Dennis Tanner when it becomes apparent he faked his own death - his current partner will be a returning Irma Barlow.



I'd write Steve McDonald and Liz McDonald out. I'd write out Nina, Bernie, the Bailey family. I'd write out Leanne and Toyah Battersby, Tyrone Dobbs, Dev Alahan, Eileen, Maria and Kirk, Fiz, Sean, Chesney, the Alahaan twins, Gary, Brian and Izzy, Beth and Craig, the Nazirs, Gemma and Billy, Cathy and Alex, Geoff, Paul Foreman, Bernie Winter.

Can whichever staff members reading this from ITV get this in front of the decision makers and let me know when I start?

Good to see your a regular corrie watcher as you would know that it's David's house not Gail's.
CO
cobbles
So I've been trying to consider what I'd do if I got the keys to Corrie as a producer and realised why I am not a television producer.

Firstly, I'd give Ken his own home and put him in a relationship with Rita (gradually built up over a few months with natural chemistry.) I'd get them to move in together at No 1 and kick the rest of the residents out of that household for now. It'd be really nice to see some older characters in a genuinely warm long term relationship and I think Ken's understated personality and Rita's larger than life one could seriously complement eachother.



Staying with Barlows I'd keep Carla and Peter together but move them out of the pub and into another house on the street, making Peter do another job that isn't as daft as a former alcoholic running a pub. Perhaps take over a bookies or one of the shops. Lastly with regards to the Barlows - I'd send Tracy and Amy off to live somewhere else other than Corrie and make rare visits for a few years, if any. Simon can go to university and come back with a new head around his 21st birthday when he's graduated.



Gail and Audrey can stay but I'd get her to finally kick the younger members of the Platt household out of the bleeding TARDIS including David, Sarah, Beth, Max and when she returrns to normal Shona. They can move into the Vic Street flats or somewhere.



I'd split Sally and Tim up and get her to reconcile with Kevin at last. The retirement home would be abandoned with older cast members moving back to the street or surrounding streets. Daniel would come out and end up in a relationship with James Bailey.



I'd properly pair Norris and Mary up.



I'd bring in a load of couples in their 20s and early 30s to buy up/rent the houses on Coronation Street. A couple of lesbian couples, a 5 person mixed-race consensual bigamist relationship involving three men and two women, a new loner who turns out to be planning to blow up his own house on the street in protest a rent increases, a gay couple, an elderly lady moving in with her 21 year old toy-boy. An ex army tough-man who is miserable, suffering from PTSD and hates everybody but eventually becomes Weatherfield's biggest swinging life of the party. Some south east asian characters.



The rovers would be taking over by a returning Dennis Tanner when it becomes apparent he faked his own death - his current partner will be a returning Irma Barlow.



I'd write Steve McDonald and Liz McDonald out. I'd write out Nina, Bernie, the Bailey family. I'd write out Leanne and Toyah Battersby, Tyrone Dobbs, Dev Alahan, Eileen, Maria and Kirk, Fiz, Sean, Chesney, the Alahaan twins, Gary, Brian and Izzy, Beth and Craig, the Nazirs, Gemma and Billy, Cathy and Alex, Geoff, Paul Foreman, Bernie Winter.

Can whichever staff members reading this from ITV get this in front of the decision makers and let me know when I start?

Good to see your a regular corrie watcher as you would know that it's David's house not Gail's.


To be fair they've both been living it so long who's meant to know who owns it?

And Gail very much acts like it's hers.

Just looked it up he bought it back in 2013 apparently? You know people dip in and out of watching the show? Can't be expected to know every storyline in that much detail!
JA
james-2001

Good to see your a regular corrie watcher as you would know that it's David's house not Gail's.


That's two things our new resident Corrie expert has got wrong in a matter of hours Razz
CO
cobbles

Good to see your a regular corrie watcher as you would know that it's David's house not Gail's.


That's two things our new resident Corrie expert has got wrong in a matter of hours Razz


I never claimed to be a Corrie expert, just that I watch it. I don't even watch every episode and have took extended breaks from watching it like almost everyone else.... some here seem to have an encyclopedic knowledge which is interesting and a bit odd....

I haven't watched it religious for decades to the point of such an encyclopedic knowledge. I just watch it. Not sure what point your trying to make? I must have been taking a break from it during the Gail being conned storyline....
JE
Jez Founding member


I never claimed to be a Corrie expert, just that I watch it. I don't even watch every episode and have took extended breaks from watching it like almost everyone else.... some here seem to have an encyclopedic knowledge which is interesting and a bit odd....

I haven't watched it religious for decades to the point of such an encyclopedic knowledge. I just watch it. Not sure what point your trying to make? I must have been taking a break from it during the Gail being conned storyline....


Why is that odd? Genuine question.

I don't have encyclopedic knowledge but do know a lot about the 70s and 80s as they are my favourite era of the show. Its surprising how much ive forgotten about the 90s onwards despite watching it regularly since the late 80s. I cant remember hardly any of 1996 which is why it will be interesting to watch on ITV3 from later this week. I remember more from 1997-1999 as it was a really good era when Brian Park took over. Hard to believe the era we are seeing on ITV3 is closer to the Richard Hillman era than we are to those episodes now in modern Corrie.
CO
cobbles
Jez posted:


I never claimed to be a Corrie expert, just that I watch it. I don't even watch every episode and have took extended breaks from watching it like almost everyone else.... some here seem to have an encyclopedic knowledge which is interesting and a bit odd....

I haven't watched it religious for decades to the point of such an encyclopedic knowledge. I just watch it. Not sure what point your trying to make? I must have been taking a break from it during the Gail being conned storyline....


Why is that odd? Genuine question.

I don't have encyclopedic knowledge but do know a lot about the 70s and 80s as they are my favourite era of the show. Its surprising how much ive forgotten about the 90s onwards despite watching it regularly since the late 80s. I cant remember hardly any of 1996 which is why it will be interesting to watch on ITV3 from later this week. I remember more from 1997-1999 as it was a really good era when Brian Park took over. Hard to believe the era we are seeing on ITV3 is closer to the Richard Hillman era than we are to those episodes now in modern Corrie.


Expecting posters on here to know every continuity detail of a show that's ran for 60 years and had 10k episodes just seems daft. Someone selling their house is the kind of thing that might pass someone who dips in and out the show by. Especially as it was 7 years ago and the person who used to own it still lives in it.

As you say you've watched loads of it and forgotten. Heck even Corrie scriptwriters forget major story lines at times. A viewer who knows everything about every character would surely be unusual.
DJ
DJ Dave
To be fair, if you want to come in and revamp Corrie, with mass killings, it would help if you knew a fair bit about the current era of the programme.

I stopped reading after half your corrie post ideas as it was awful, but looking back Sally and Tim are a great comedy double, I was never really that big a fan of Sally until she got with Tim.

Again Steve McDonald is now a corrie legend but you want to write him out along with other legends like Tracy etc.
CO
cobbles
To be fair, if you want to come in and revamp Corrie, with mass killings, it would help if you knew a fair bit about the current era of the programme.

I stopped reading after half your corrie post ideas as it was awful, but looking back Sally and Tim are a great comedy double, I was never really that big a fan of Sally until she got with Tim.

Again Steve McDonald is now a corrie legend but you want to write him out along with other legends like Tracy etc.


2013 is 7 years ago. Hardly call that current.

I mean they're only legends in the sense of being there for donkeys years. Rather than being amazing characters.

I find both their characters pretty unlikeable and relatively uninteresting to be honest. Together they're insufferable as demonstrated by that scene with Leanne tonight shooting glances at each other but unwilling to open their gobs when neither of them are normally afraid too.

The acting isn't the greatest from this pair and I don't think being in the show forever should give immunity from being written out on that basis. I actually think one of Corrie's biggest weaknesses is its reluctance to fire longstanding cast members so it's not surprising I'd write a load out.

There does seem to be a certain thing with Corrie never axing characters who've been in for quite a few years.

As for Sally, I much preferred her with Kevin.
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JW
JamesWorldNews
Reading between the lines only slightly, but someone on here seems extremely determined to see Ken and Rita frenetically re-enacting Fifty Shades of Grey in The Kabin’s stock cupboard.


You can tell a love story without sex scenes, Corrie used to be good at it once upon a time


Bloody hell. A few pages back YOU were the one suggesting Ken and Rita would get together and perhaps hire an escort to assist with sexual problems which may happen to some people of older age! Have you changed your mind already?

That’s quite ironic, given that you’ve also just told us that some Corrie scriptwriters forget events over the course of years and decades. You appear to have forgotten one of your own suggested “plots” from only a day ago!

I think we all admire your knowledge and enthusiasm of the show. After all, it’s a love for television that brings all of us here.

But, perhaps, don’t just disagree with everything someone else says just for the sake of hogging the board. In having such disagreements, you’re contradicting what you yourself have said 5 minutes ago.

Welcome to TVF, by the way.
CO
cobbles
Reading between the lines only slightly, but someone on here seems extremely determined to see Ken and Rita frenetically re-enacting Fifty Shades of Grey in The Kabin’s stock cupboard.


You can tell a love story without sex scenes, Corrie used to be good at it once upon a time


Bloody hell. A few pages back YOU were the one suggesting Ken and Rita would get together and perhaps hire an escort to assist with sexual problems which may happen to some people of older age! Have you changed your mind already?

That’s quite ironic, given that you’ve also just told us that some Corrie scriptwriters forget events over the course of years and decades. You appear to have forgotten one of your own suggested “plots” from only a day ago!

I think we all admire your knowledge and enthusiasm of the show. After all, it’s a love for television that brings all of us here.

But, perhaps, don’t just disagree with everything someone else says just for the sake of hogging the board. In having such disagreements, you’re contradicting what you yourself have said 5 minutes ago.

Welcome to TVF, by the way.


I never said I actually wanted to see those scenes as sex scenes (Soups fifty shades of grey comment), it's something that could easily be told as a comic storyline or dramatic storyline. The drama or comedy is the element that matters and reason for suggesting the storyline not a desire to see two characters in their 80s humping.

I'm not disagreeing for the sake of it, I'm picking someone up for putting words in my mouth.
JW
JamesWorldNews
The more I think about it the more I think pairing Rita and Ken up together makes a lot more sense.

They've known eachother nearly 50 years, they both have a certain love for the area and the people around them. Rita's feisty nature would be a good foil to the more retiring Ken and it would be a really good way of showing that people can have an intimate relationship in the final years of their life if the writers played it right. Naturally creates some conflict between Tracy and Jenny alongside it and could really begin to set up for the future.

If you really wanted to have a bit of a comedy element to it they could struggle to be compatible sexually until they hire and escort/sex coach who turns out to be a local street resident.


I was referring to this post ^. A few pages back. Admittedly, you didn’t suggest outright sex scenes and I guess the hiring of an escort/sex coach *could* be written tactfully and romantically to “tell a love story”. My apologies for getting it all wrong.
CO
cobbles
The more I think about it the more I think pairing Rita and Ken up together makes a lot more sense.

They've known eachother nearly 50 years, they both have a certain love for the area and the people around them. Rita's feisty nature would be a good foil to the more retiring Ken and it would be a really good way of showing that people can have an intimate relationship in the final years of their life if the writers played it right. Naturally creates some conflict between Tracy and Jenny alongside it and could really begin to set up for the future.

If you really wanted to have a bit of a comedy element to it they could struggle to be compatible sexually until they hire and escort/sex coach who turns out to be a local street resident.


I was referring to this post ^. A few pages back. Admittedly, you didn’t suggest outright sex scenes and I guess the hiring of an escort/sex coach *could* be written tactfully and romantically to “tell a love story”. My apologies for getting it all wrong.


That but without the sarcasm.

Two elderly people get together but discover they aren't sexually compatible so seek to hire a sex coach or an escort. It doesn't go too well for them especially when they discover they've hired someone they know under a pseudonym. You can show it failing without showing the sex. They give up on that side of things but remain together and focus on romantic gestures and being companions. One night, the deed happens.

I take the rest of the points in your post on board though.

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