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JA
james-2001
You remember the name of anyone from One True Voice?


You do NOT forget the name of any famous people to come from Wrexham1


Tim Vincent? Razz

15 days later

BR
Brekkie
The move in date has now been put back to the summer.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/bbc-wales-move-new-cardiff-17852645
MO
Moz
what posted:
what posted:
ITV Wales News has had a view of Cardiff Bay since the 2004 relaunch at least.


Yea but everyone in North Wales (that can), watch BBC NW and Granada don't they? 🤔

I’d have thought that the people of North Wales would have been especially adverse to English television.

(not hating, not stereotyping, I am half Welsh)


Not sure why. I'm from North Wales and we always preferred to watch North West Tonight. Liverpool and Manchester are far closer to us than Cardiff.
MO
Moz
You remember the name of anyone from One True Voice?


You do NOT forget the name of any famous people to come from Wrexham1


Loads of famous people from Wrexham. Me for starters!
JA
Jacq
Moz posted:
what posted:

Yea but everyone in North Wales (that can), watch BBC NW and Granada don't they? 🤔

I’d have thought that the people of North Wales would have been especially adverse to English television.

(not hating, not stereotyping, I am half Welsh)


Not sure why. I'm from North Wales and we always preferred to watch North West Tonight. Liverpool and Manchester are far closer to us than Cardiff.



It was always a thing when we still had Analogue, that a lot of people in North Wales, especially North-East Wales, got a much better signal from BBC across the border.

Same for ITV. I'm originally from Colwyn Bay, and we had a perfect Granada signal, whereas HTV was really fuzzy.

That might have also had something to do with it.

(Depending on the weather obviously. On clear days in the summer, I could occasionally pick up BBC Ulster on the portable in my bedroom, and that was with a coathanger aerial, and we had much more stable Welsh channels on those days.)
NE
newsnet
The completion of this new - and totally unnecessary - BBC Wales headquarters building portends the demise of BBC Wales ( just as New Broadcasting House in London heralds the end of the BBC itself).

Probably no one in BBC Wales has ever read C Northcote Parkinson's brilliant book "Parkinson's Law or the Pursuit of Progress". If they had only done so they would have encountered this dictum
Quote:

"When a company or other organization is finally able to plan and build the perfect building for itself, the building best suited to its needs, that organization is in the throes of petrification and death.
"
CO
commseng
To be fair a lot of buildings were built specifically by the BBC.
Broadcasting House
TV Centre
Pebble Mill
New Broadcasting House, Manchester
Llandaff
Fenham Barracks
To name a few built before 1990.
SP
Spencer
The completion of this new - and totally unnecessary - BBC Wales headquarters building portends the demise of BBC Wales ( just as New Broadcasting House in London heralds the end of the BBC itself).

Probably no one in BBC Wales has ever read C Northcote Parkinson's brilliant book "Parkinson's Law or the Pursuit of Progress". If they had only done so they would have encountered this dictum
Quote:

"When a company or other organization is finally able to plan and build the perfect building for itself, the building best suited to its needs, that organization is in the throes of petrification and death.
"


I’m not convinced the BBC wouldn’t still be facing the current pressures had they remained at Television Centre.

And those I know who’ve worked at New Broadcasting House certainly wouldn’t describe it as perfect.
MI
Michael
The completion of this new - and totally unnecessary - BBC Wales headquarters building portends the demise of BBC Wales ( just as New Broadcasting House in London heralds the end of the BBC itself).

Probably no one in BBC Wales has ever read C Northcote Parkinson's brilliant book "Parkinson's Law or the Pursuit of Progress". If they had only done so they would have encountered this dictum
Quote:

"When a company or other organization is finally able to plan and build the perfect building for itself, the building best suited to its needs, that organization is in the throes of petrification and death.
"



It most certainly is necessary.

There's no Pret a Manger or Greggs at the one in Llandaff.
Universal_r and Markymark gave kudos
CO
commseng
The completion of this new - and totally unnecessary - BBC Wales headquarters building portends the demise of BBC Wales ( just as New Broadcasting House in London heralds the end of the BBC itself).

Probably no one in BBC Wales has ever read C Northcote Parkinson's brilliant book "Parkinson's Law or the Pursuit of Progress". If they had only done so they would have encountered this dictum
Quote:

"When a company or other organization is finally able to plan and build the perfect building for itself, the building best suited to its needs, that organization is in the throes of petrification and death.
"


I’m not convinced the BBC wouldn’t still be facing the current pressures had they remained at Television Centre.

And those I know who’ve worked at New Broadcasting House certainly wouldn’t describe it as perfect.

Did they work at what was there beforehand?
What did they make of the Piccadilly building, the old church in Dickenson Road, and several other buildings scattered around Manchester?
Certainly when I was at Pebble Mill nobody spoke fondly of the days at Broad Street, Gosta Green or Carpenter Road etc.
Now the purpose built building has gone, once again there is a seperate site for drama from everything else, which has been squeezed into a smaller space.

EDIT - just re-reading that about New Broadcasting House - did you mean the New in 1976 Manchester one now demolished, or the sort of renamed BH in London?
Last edited by commseng on 14 March 2020 2:49pm
MW
Mike W
[quote="commseng" pid="1216287"]
The completion of this new - and totally unnecessary - BBC Wales headquarters building portends the demise of BBC Wales ( just as New Broadcasting House in London heralds the end of the BBC itself).

Probably no one in BBC Wales has ever read C Northcote Parkinson's brilliant book "Parkinson's Law or the Pursuit of Progress". If they had only done so they would have encountered this dictum
/quote]

I’m not convinced the BBC wouldn’t still be facing the current pressures had they remained at Television Centre.

And those I know who’ve worked at New Broadcasting House certainly wouldn’t describe it as perfect.

Did they work at what was there beforehand?
What did they make of the Piccadilly building, the old church in Dickenson Road, and several other buildings scattered around Manchester?
Certainly when I was at Pebble Mill nobody spoke fondly of the days at Broad Street, Gosta Green or Carpenter Road etc.
Now the purpose built building has gone, once again there is a seperate site for drama from everything else, which has been squeezed into a smaller space.

EDIT - just re-reading that about New Broadcasting House - did you mean the New in 1976 Manchester one now demolished, or the sort of renamed BH in London?

I think they meant NBH, W1A

By all accounts it has rodents (always would being in the middle of London, and some of the building being subsurface), and is prone to leaks.
CO
commseng
In that case isn't one of the main problems at LBH that there is an average of three buttocks per chair rather than the normal number?

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