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Enter Sky News Arabia with this weird hybrid version:


It is indeed an interesting hybrid - their previous (pre-early 2019) logo was similarly jumbled! *
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Neil Jones6,002 posts since 23 Dec 2001
Central (West) Midlands Today
All we need is the Sky DOGs to stay on the screen.

What benefit do DOGs have for viewers? Why do you want them?

Erm... DOGs are important as it helps for channel identification.


And the "information" key on the Sky remote doesn't do the same job?

Allow me to quote this from Andrew Wiseman's DOG Watch page:

http://625.uk.com/dogwatch/index.htm posted:
In a further attempt to get at the truth [regarding the BBC Choice DOG of the time], Gareth Randall wrote a letter to the BBC staff newspaper Ariel in May 2000 to see if anyone was prepared to justify the existence of DOGs on digital without resorting to nonsense marketing speak. After all, all digital platforms can tell the viewer what channel he's watching simply by pressing a button on the remote control. This was the reply from Stuart Murphy [the then controller of BBC Choice]:
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There are two reasons I want a DOG in the top left of screen. First, I'm such a slob that I sometimes can't be bothered getting off my sofa to get the remote control to find out what channel I'm on. Once I have the remote control I often can't be bothered pressing the button. Even with the DOG in the top left of screen, I often can't be bothered letting my eyes drift up to that area of the screen to see what channel it is. Thankfully, for me and others, the DOG acts as a constant but subtle branding. The second and main reason, though, is that TIVO launches this Autumn. It will allow people to tell their set top box what shows they want to see, so that it can record those shows and play them back at a later date. Unless we have the BBC logo in the top of frame of every BBC show, we will lose credit for what we are doing. It's worth saying that when I ran UK PLAY no one complained about the on-screen DOG, whereas on BBC One or Two people do. Are you saying my DOG is uglier than theirs?
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Inspector Sands14,308 posts since 25 Aug 2004
This debate is as old as that page and in those 20 years everyone's got used to channel bugs and it's not really an issue any more


Pressing something to find out what channel you're watching is an active process. Very few people care what channel they're watching but the channels want them to know. Having the logo on the screen all the time makes it passive not active.
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VMPhil10,138 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today
This debate is as old as that page and in those 20 years everyone's got used to channel bugs and it's not really an issue any more


Pressing something to find out what channel you're watching is an active process. Very few people care what channel they're watching but the channels want them to know. Having the logo on the screen all the time makes it passive not active.

I think you're missing one crucial thing about what's happened over the last twenty years, or to be more precise over the last ten years, as channel DOGs have generally gotten smaller, more translucent, and have been moved much further into the corner after the axing of the 4:3 safe area. If the BBC introduced large, colourful, bright DOGs on their channels, I can bet there would be complaints. Some are so small and indistinguishable, like ITV's, that you wonder why they even bother.
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JetixFann450665 posts since 25 Mar 2013
STV Central Reporting Scotland
This debate is as old as that page and in those 20 years everyone's got used to channel bugs and it's not really an issue any more


Pressing something to find out what channel you're watching is an active process. Very few people care what channel they're watching but the channels want them to know. Having the logo on the screen all the time makes it passive not active.

I think you're missing one crucial thing about what's happened over the last twenty years, or to be more precise over the last ten years, as channel DOGs have generally gotten smaller, more translucent, and have been moved much further into the corner after the axing of the 4:3 safe area. If the BBC introduced large, colourful, bright DOGs on their channels, I can bet there would be complaints. Some are so small and indistinguishable, like ITV's, that you wonder why they even bother.


That hadn't stopped CBBC from having a colour changing DOG, but again, it's for children and I don't think they'd care as much.
Do you even read these?
AJ1,739 posts since 4 Jan 2003
London London
I'm pretty bemused that people think that investment in a brand means no investment in a technology platform.

They're two very separate areas of any business - not just exclusive to Sky either.
bilky asko5,636 posts since 9 Sep 2006
Tyne Tees Look North (North East)
This debate is as old as that page and in those 20 years everyone's got used to channel bugs and it's not really an issue any more


Pressing something to find out what channel you're watching is an active process. Very few people care what channel they're watching but the channels want them to know. Having the logo on the screen all the time makes it passive not active.

I think you're missing one crucial thing about what's happened over the last twenty years, or to be more precise over the last ten years, as channel DOGs have generally gotten smaller, more translucent, and have been moved much further into the corner after the axing of the 4:3 safe area. If the BBC introduced large, colourful, bright DOGs on their channels, I can bet there would be complaints. Some are so small and indistinguishable, like ITV's, that you wonder why they even bother.


Though it's noticeably bigger and brighter on ITV Hub content.