IS
It was interesting how Dan mentioned football programmes would be coming from there, then thinking about it I can’t remember the HQ3 set being used for anything other than football, where the old TVC sets would be. Is it a done thing that other sports are presented on location only?
HQ3 was only used by them for Match of The Day, it is a large studio with audience seating for 200 so it's used for all sorts of programmes. At TVC, TC5 was home to BBC Sport so that was used for everything. In Salford they have several studios/studio spaces in the BBC building
I imagine that hiring HQ3 once a week was problematic for Dock10, difficult to fit in long term bookings when there's a regular one every Saturday night
It was interesting how Dan mentioned football programmes would be coming from there, then thinking about it I can’t remember the HQ3 set being used for anything other than football, where the old TVC sets would be. Is it a done thing that other sports are presented on location only?
HQ3 was only used by them for Match of The Day, it is a large studio with audience seating for 200 so it's used for all sorts of programmes. At TVC, TC5 was home to BBC Sport so that was used for everything. In Salford they have several studios/studio spaces in the BBC building
I imagine that hiring HQ3 once a week was problematic for Dock10, difficult to fit in long term bookings when there's a regular one every Saturday night
GE
Much of the imagery in the IKEA catalogue is computer generated - but they've trained their CGI artists to be photographers, and their photographers to be CGI artists, so that they can get a better understanding of how each other works. And it works pretty effectively.
I've just watched some MOTD, and what they're doing isn't a terrible concept, it just feels too shiny. The floor looks so polished that if it was real, I'd be worried about someone slipping on it.
I understand the financial benefit of them using a smaller studio space and all - I just think that VR sets work better when they look a bit more like something you could actually build. ITV News might not look very exciting, but it just about passes for a real set, and that's why it works.
thegeek
Founding member
I'm all for AR, it can be really useful in cleverly presenting facts and figures, etc... but I have yet to see a VR set that I actually like. I think one of the big problems is when they're created by graphic designers with no experience of, or talent for, set design.
Much of the imagery in the IKEA catalogue is computer generated - but they've trained their CGI artists to be photographers, and their photographers to be CGI artists, so that they can get a better understanding of how each other works. And it works pretty effectively.
I've just watched some MOTD, and what they're doing isn't a terrible concept, it just feels too shiny. The floor looks so polished that if it was real, I'd be worried about someone slipping on it.
I understand the financial benefit of them using a smaller studio space and all - I just think that VR sets work better when they look a bit more like something you could actually build. ITV News might not look very exciting, but it just about passes for a real set, and that's why it works.
FA
I agree with this statement. Just compare the previous ITV News set with the vast space and shiny yellow lines and columns to the current. Part of me feels like the replacement of the larger screen for facts, etc. pushes it a little, but a large screen is something that you’d expect to see in a TV studio.
What I don’t understand with the BBC Football set is where the studio is supposed to be placed. The faux ceiling implies that it’s beneath tiered seating, so is it supposed to be some sort of cornered pitch level box?
A random observation but I notice from Dan’s explanation video, the Blue Peter clip and the Tez O’Clock Show that the studio walls are visible, obviously not an issue for BBC Sport, but is it a stylised addition or do that lack the simple black/lit cloth at Media City?
I just think that VR sets work better when they look a bit more like something you could actually build. ITV News might not look very exciting, but it just about passes for a real set, and that's why it works.
I agree with this statement. Just compare the previous ITV News set with the vast space and shiny yellow lines and columns to the current. Part of me feels like the replacement of the larger screen for facts, etc. pushes it a little, but a large screen is something that you’d expect to see in a TV studio.
What I don’t understand with the BBC Football set is where the studio is supposed to be placed. The faux ceiling implies that it’s beneath tiered seating, so is it supposed to be some sort of cornered pitch level box?
A random observation but I notice from Dan’s explanation video, the Blue Peter clip and the Tez O’Clock Show that the studio walls are visible, obviously not an issue for BBC Sport, but is it a stylised addition or do that lack the simple black/lit cloth at Media City?
NG
A random observation but I notice from Dan’s explanation video, the Blue Peter clip and the Tez O’Clock Show that the studio walls are visible, obviously not an issue for BBC Sport, but is it a stylised addition or do that lack the simple black/lit cloth at Media City?
It's likely to be a style choice. You can see the cyc rail is being used for the green curtain for the BBC Sport VR set, if you wanted a black cyc for your set, you'd just hang those from the cyc rail instead (or star cloth, or other cyc material) Cyc rails are pretty standard in any studio, and studios will almost always have black cyc (often a heavyish Bolton Twill or similar) available as an option.
noggin
Founding member
A random observation but I notice from Dan’s explanation video, the Blue Peter clip and the Tez O’Clock Show that the studio walls are visible, obviously not an issue for BBC Sport, but is it a stylised addition or do that lack the simple black/lit cloth at Media City?
It's likely to be a style choice. You can see the cyc rail is being used for the green curtain for the BBC Sport VR set, if you wanted a black cyc for your set, you'd just hang those from the cyc rail instead (or star cloth, or other cyc material) Cyc rails are pretty standard in any studio, and studios will almost always have black cyc (often a heavyish Bolton Twill or similar) available as an option.
JO
I think the set looked even better for Match of the Day and Match of the Day 2. I think I'm sold on it now.
I think this is going to come into it's own during the Euros when they'll almost certainly be based in Salford for the non-British isles games, but will be able to use cameras in venue cities and the stadiums for the background.
I think this is going to come into it's own during the Euros when they'll almost certainly be based in Salford for the non-British isles games, but will be able to use cameras in venue cities and the stadiums for the background.
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