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thegeek4,989 posts since 1 Jan 2002
London London

I know some Black Magic isn’t that user friendly.


It's not so much that, BM kit packs a lot of functionality into a small space etc, but with respect it's for ad-hoc set ups, most of it has no redundancy capability, so as others have pointed out you really wouldn't want to use it in your main 24/7 output chains

Yes, that's what I was getting at. I'd happily trust it in an edit suite, or maybe in an SNG provided you can patch around it, but I wouldn't say it's robust enough to be a station router.
noggin14,534 posts since 26 Jun 2001

I know some Black Magic isn’t that user friendly.


It's not so much that, BM kit packs a lot of functionality into a small space etc, but with respect it's for ad-hoc set ups, most of it has no redundancy capability, so as others have pointed out you really wouldn't want to use it in your main 24/7 output chains

Yes, that's what I was getting at. I'd happily trust it in an edit suite, or maybe in an SNG provided you can patch around it, but I wouldn't say it's robust enough to be a station router.


I wouldn't put a Black Magic station router into a 24/7 facility - but their new Constellation mixer (finally!) has redundant PSUs and is being seriously considered for roles that previous BMD kit wouldn't have been considered for.

NRK are using single-PSU BMD kit for their regional news operations controlled by Sofie (which replaced Mosart) - there comes a point where you have to balance an occasional lost bulletin vs the price for gold plated kit. That balance point is shifting...

Also - these days, the number of vision mixer inputs can be mitigated by intelligent control of upstream routers (after all PGM and PST rows are just destinations on internal routers in most vision mixers, and even back in the day you used to 'stretch' mixers by exploiting this. ISTR that the BBC had 40 input GVG200/250 and GVG110 mixers in the last analogue CMCCR that were stretched using such a technique)
radiolistener684 posts since 8 Aug 2010
Isn't it time that the VD show was renamed, given that she rarely does a complete week of broadcasts?

Perhaps BBC News Today - even a legacy title like Nationwide with <NAME>. - would be better ideas that giving someone an ego by calling it after their name and then that person fails to appear.

Having Victoria Derbyshire with <NAME> is ridiculously clunky too.
Rolling News840 posts since 27 Dec 2015
Central (East) East Midlands Today
Isn't it time that the VD show was renamed, given that she rarely does a complete week of broadcasts?

Perhaps BBC News Today - even a legacy title like Nationwide with <NAME>. - would be better ideas that giving someone an ego by calling it after their name and then that person fails to appear.

Having Victoria Derbyshire with <NAME> is ridiculously clunky too.

She's been on all this week so far and most weeks does Monday-Thursday and the occasional Friday. She hasn't appeared for the last 2 weeks, presumably, due to holiday like many other people at this time of year have time off work for.


If they were to rename it, some thing like Morning Live would suit, to make it consistent with the other two strands. I'm not Victoria's biggest fan, but personally, I think the name of the show, and the show itself, is fine as it is.
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radiolistener684 posts since 8 Aug 2010
Isn't it time that the VD show was renamed, given that she rarely does a complete week of broadcasts?

Perhaps BBC News Today - even a legacy title like Nationwide with <NAME>. - would be better ideas that giving someone an ego by calling it after their name and then that person fails to appear.

Having Victoria Derbyshire with <NAME> is ridiculously clunky too.

She's been on all this week so far and most weeks does Monday-Thursday and the occasional Friday. She hasn't appeared for the last 2 weeks, presumably, due to holiday like many other people at this time of year have time off work for.


If they were to rename it, some thing like Morning Live would suit, to make it consistent with the other two strands. I'm not Victoria's biggest fan, but personally, I think the name of the show, and the show itself, is fine as it is.


I think most weeks is pushing it to be honest.
i-lied557 posts since 22 Oct 2012
Tyne Tees Look North (North East)
I really don’t understand why people are so negative and hateful about VD and whether she presents it enough for it to bare her name.

1. She was seriously ill for a while and did diaries for the show, so give her some slack. I don’t remember anyone giving other presenters (who they like) the same amount of criticism.
2. The BBC obviously thought they can’t compete for ratings in certain demographics at that time due to fierce competition, so they produce a programme outside of their comfort zone. I think they should be doing this sort of thing. Outside Source is similar but again people don’t complain here about that because it’s a “serious” show.
3. It and the new graphics don’t quite match up but these are teething problems that only come out on screen. The BBC will fix them, just be patient.

The BBC is there to serve all audiences (certain non-news decisions aside). It’s role is to innovate in programming styles. I don’t see people complaining about shows co hosted from two different parts of the globe, yet the BBC have two. Broadcasters all around the world look up to the BBC. It may not make programmes suitable for everybody but then again who does these days? No broadcaster can expect to please everyone so pay offs are made.
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