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Andrew Founding member Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Changes to make for next year.

They’ve partially sorted Today at Wimbledon by airing it at 8:30, but it still doesn’t seem quite late enough to ensure it always airs in full. They go to the effort of booking McEnroe etc and then don’t always use them. Remember it isn’t just the highlights, it’s the punditry, the little features and packages.

Although I can see the point of trying to maintain some sort of normal BBC Two programming after 9/9:30, but at the same time with BBC Two’s budget being tight maybe they shouldn’t and should keep any new programming back for other times of the year.

Air Today at Wimbledon at 9:30pm every night, and fill the gap between 8/8:30 with easily droppable repeats like Dad’s Army etc would by my way forward.
Last edited by Andrew on 14 July 2019 11:09pm
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dvboy Central (West) Midlands Today
They needn't bother scheduling anything in before TaW even with a 21:30 start. It's rare there isn't a match still going on at 21:00. Use some filler if play is done for the day.

While we're at it, start at 13:00 on BBC one so that the Centre and No. 1 Court matches get proper coverage.

We say these things every year but nothing changes.

I wonder how many packages made for TaW never get seen. Must be frustrating for those who have worked on them. Without TaW there's also nothing going out on the red button overnight either.
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Andrew Founding member Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
I’d probably schedule something, just so people don’t complain that there is ‘12 hours of tennis on BBC Two’ based on them just looking at the listings.

And yes, a lot of packages must be made up at short notice and then binned immediately.
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Brekkie Wales Wales Today
Despite tonight's unsatisfactory BBC2/4 scheduling issue that need not have been, as Wimbledon 2019 ends let's not forget how wonderful the BBC coverage of Wimbledon actually is, and has been again this year. We've been able to watch an outstanding 5 hours of solid sporting prowess in that men's final on BBC1 today without a single intrusion or advert. Only the BBC can give us that. Wimbledon coverage is one of the BBC's genuine positives in their broadcasting. Without the BBC Wimbledon would look and feel very different indeed, and not bettered.

Exactly, and although I'm sure ITV or C4 could do a great job with it having it ad free and in full is what licence fee payers deserve. Now they've had their Olympic coverage drastically reduced Wimbledon IMO is the flagship live event the BBC have and is BBC Sport at it's best.

Also thankfully they seem to have stepped back from the unnecessary breaks within their own coverage that had crept in over recent years, either for a general block of trailers or trailing a flagship show at a peak viewing moment which usually felt out of place.

Changes to make for next year.

They’ve partially sorted Today at Wimbledon by airing it at 8:30, but it still doesn’t seem quite late enough to ensure it always airs in full. They go to the effort of booking McEnroe etc and then don’t always use them. Remember it isn’t just the highlights, it’s the punditry, the little features and packages.

Although I can see the point of trying to maintain some sort of normal BBC Two programming after 9/9:30, but at the same time with BBC Two’s budget being tight maybe they shouldn’t and should keep any new programming back for other times of the year.

Air Today at Wimbledon at 9:30pm every night, and fill the gap between 8/8:30 with easily droppable repeats like Dad’s Army etc would by my way forward.

Well before it moved to 8pm it did air at 9.30pm, generally with half hour shows at 8.30/9pm, often including some classic comedies which could be dropped.

I do think if Today at Wimbledon stays on BBC2 it's fine where it is as I think should live coverage overrun they'd still run the hour long slot of regular programme so curtail Today at Wimbledon anyway.

I do wonder though if stripping Today at Wimbledon on BBC1 at 9pm across the fortnight is worth it. They can easily afford to lose two weeks of 9pm programming (there are enough New Tricks/Death in Paradise/Mrs Brown Boys/Room 101 repeats over the year), and I think highlights stand out better with some slight seperation from the live coverage.
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Jonwo (previously Jonwo87)
It’s very unlikely Today at Wimbledon would go to 9pm on BBC One, especially in Euro and World Cup years, it’s end up on BBC Two anyway.

Also given Countryfile rates better than Top Gear, it was never likely that TG would move to BBC One
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Rich Tea Anglia (West) Look East
The BBC Genome is rather illuminating regards how the BBC used to cover Wimbledon.

For example, I picked a random date from within my own memory at Wimbledon 89 and the entire BBC1 coverage on 4th July lasted from just 1.50pm to 4.10pm. After that you had to wait for the roundup show with Des Lynam and Gerald Williams showing at 11.05pm. BBC2's coverage went from 2pm but ended at 7.10pm, which is a time when many great matches are in full flow, certainly nowadays. It's nothing like as much coverage as I thought there was, certainly on BBC1.

However I do have a memory of listening to the gripping five set 1988 men's semi final between Miloslav Mecir v Stefan Edberg on Radio 2 of all places. Seems odd that I would have listened rather than watched if I'd have had the option to view.
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james-2001 Central (East) East Midlands Today
Changes to make for next year.

They’ve partially sorted Today at Wimbledon by airing it at 8:30, but it still doesn’t seem quite late enough to ensure it always airs in full. They go to the effort of booking McEnroe etc and then don’t always use them. Remember it isn’t just the highlights, it’s the punditry, the little features and packages.


Bring back Wimbledon2Day...

... or don't Razz
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Brekkie Wales Wales Today
Jonwo posted:
It’s very unlikely Today at Wimbledon would go to 9pm on BBC One, especially in Euro and World Cup years, it’s end up on BBC Two anyway.

True - hadn't thought of that, and now with a commitment to Womens football (the BBC has exclusive rights to Euro 2021) that's an annual thing rather than biannual.
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JAS84 Yorkshire Look North (E.Yorks & Lincs)
The BBC Genome is rather illuminating regards how the BBC used to cover Wimbledon.

For example, I picked a random date from within my own memory at Wimbledon 89 and the entire BBC1 coverage on 4th July lasted from just 1.50pm to 4.10pm. After that you had to wait for the roundup show with Des Lynam and Gerald Williams showing at 11.05pm. BBC2's coverage went from 2pm but ended at 7.10pm, which is a time when many great matches are in full flow, certainly nowadays. It's nothing like as much coverage as I thought there was, certainly on BBC1.

However I do have a memory of listening to the gripping five set 1988 men's semi final between Miloslav Mecir v Stefan Edberg on Radio 2 of all places. Seems odd that I would have listened rather than watched if I'd have had the option to view.

Genome is unreliable in this case, as it takes schedules from the Radio Times, and what was scheduled isn't necessarily what aired!
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Andrew Founding member Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
As somebody else said, at least it's now pushed 'President Zuma with a statement' down to the second worse cut between two programmes!
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dvboy Central (West) Midlands Today
In the back of my mind I've a feeling they've done this before where they've interrupted a programme in the middle to move Wimbledon, perhaps from BBC1 to BBC2, but with an announcement at least.
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