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Twenty Years of the Thunderclaps

BBC News - Lambie Nairn and David Lowe era - 20 Years On (May 2019)

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Blake Connolly Founding member London London
Wasn't the kite added to the titles at a later point to soften them up a bit? The original version was just lots of businessmen in their suits and ties, not sure who it was designed to appeal to beyond Apprentice contestants. I know it was "of its time" but it was a terrible opening sequence.
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VMPhil Granada North West Today
Wasn't the kite added to the titles at a later point to soften them up a bit? The original version was just lots of businessmen in their suits and ties, not sure who it was designed to appeal to beyond Apprentice contestants. I know it was "of its time" but it was a terrible opening sequence.

No BBC logo or name anywhere either - unthinkable now.
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dazza1976 Meridian (South East) South East Today
For me, the best versions were the blue English Regions titles. Would love a clean version of these, especially the ending - were there two edits of this?

Off topic I know, but I wonder what South East Today would have been like before the corporate era had come in (a challenge for any mockers out there)?
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m_in_m Anglia (East) Look East
Wasn't the kite added to the titles at a later point to soften them up a bit? The original version was just lots of businessmen in their suits and ties, not sure who it was designed to appeal to beyond Apprentice contestants. I know it was "of its time" but it was a terrible opening sequence.

Were the non kite titles intended for the first hour were previously there was Business Breakfast?
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Rolling News Central (East) East Midlands Today
Wasn't the kite added to the titles at a later point to soften them up a bit? The original version was just lots of businessmen in their suits and ties, not sure who it was designed to appeal to beyond Apprentice contestants. I know it was "of its time" but it was a terrible opening sequence.

Were the non kite titles intended for the first hour were previously there was Business Breakfast?

I'm not sure as these titles were used for one edition at 0730?

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itsrobert Founding member Granada North West Today
Perhaps it's my age but I still love the 93-99 theme music and look and I would have loved to have seen that develop over the years rather than the David Lowe stuff.

The David Lowe stuff is very good - don't get me wrong. For me, the 10-second countdown, ident, and theme tune for the standard bulletins from 99-02 (I think) was the best iteration of the David Lowe era - indeed, being the sad TV Forum freak that I am, the theme tune for these bulletins are my ring tone on my phone.

The worst iteration of it was the News 24 bulletin theme tune between 99 and 03 (the one with the elephant-sounding descending trumpet noise at the start of the tune).

And am I alone in thinking that the countdown is not as good as everything else thinks it is?


I agree - the 1993 themes are my favourites too. David Lowe's music was revolutionary in 1999 but it's way past its sell by date now. The golden age of Lowe music was most definitely between 1999 and 2003. Everything since has got progressively worse (with the sole exception of the 2007 BBC News 24/World music). Maybe we still love the 1993 themes because they were relatively short-lived and didn't really get messed around with in the same was Lowe's have? Either way, the orchestral themes certainly sounded more 'expensive' compared to the relatively 'cheap' sound of Lowe's music.

You're not alone in disliking the current BBC News countdown. In my opinion, it was at its best between 1999 and 2003. Every iteration since has been underwhelming and personally I think it was a waste of time and money commissioning an orchestra to add strings to it in 2013. It's hardly noticeable.
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natwel27 Meridian (South East) South East Today
I forgot how good the 2007 music was until I went back to listen to it.
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Spencer Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Personally I much preferred the George Fenton themes before the 1993 versions. Sorry, but I found the classical-style orchestral arrangements way OTT and rather pompous.
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JKDerry UTV Newsline
Personally I much preferred the George Fenton themes before the 1993 versions. Sorry, but I found the classical-style orchestral arrangements way OTT and rather pompous.

Same here. The Six O'Clock News theme arrangement from 1993-1999 was described by one person as they were expecting Genghis Khan to ride into the studio on horseback.


I liked the One O'Clock News theme from 1986-1993. Really good.
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itsrobert Founding member Granada North West Today
Personally I much preferred the George Fenton themes before the 1993 versions. Sorry, but I found the classical-style orchestral arrangements way OTT and rather pompous.


It's interesting how different we all are as that's exactly the reason I liked them. It was the BBC saying "we're the BBC!" and not being ashamed of it. That's a far cry from 2019, sadly.

Although the '93 themes are my favourite BBC1 news themes, I think my number one choice from across any outlet would have to be the BBC World flags theme music from 1997-2000. That was epic without the pomposity. Never beaten in my opinion.

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natwel27 Meridian (South East) South East Today
I'd have to say that either 2002 World or 2003 News 24 are my personal favourites.
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dafydd Wales Wales Today
I grew up in the 1980s and the themes from that that time are quite evocative particularly the One and Nine. However I did love the over-the-top cut glass era - and it was probably the first time I'd actually paid attention to presentation and how it was done.

I'm trying to work out why the recent BBC News Channel themes are so bland. They used to be incredibly exciting, particularly in the countdown build-up. There are some lovely off-beat percussion and synth stabs in the 2003 and 2007 version. The early versions were much more pure.

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