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WW Update4,785 posts since 6 Feb 2007
When I say seismic changes - I mean changes of the order of magnitude that would see the BBC having to axe/sell off Radios 1, 2 and 5Live and BBC Two and Four (even then, the low cost-per-hour of ESC compared to a mainstream Saturday night show would still mean it was good value), or a charter renewal that prohibits the BBC from competing with ITV on popular entertainment shows like Strictly.


As long as we're talking hypotheticals, wouldn't selling BBC Two and BBC Four esentially get rid of the corporation's whole raison d'être? It might as well shut down everything if (God forbid) that were ever to happen. I mean, you could still run most of BBC One on a commercial basis, but not Two or Four.
WW Update4,785 posts since 6 Feb 2007
Will the BBC continue to fund a large chunk of the EBU budget? We are hated by all of Europe, why do we bother providing millions to the EBU and then be treated like crap?


Um... When exactly has the EBU treated the BBC (or the UK as a whole) like crap?
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BM11978 posts since 2 Jun 2017
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When I say seismic changes - I mean changes of the order of magnitude that would see the BBC having to axe/sell off Radios 1, 2 and 5Live and BBC Two and Four (even then, the low cost-per-hour of ESC compared to a mainstream Saturday night show would still mean it was good value), or a charter renewal that prohibits the BBC from competing with ITV on popular entertainment shows like Strictly.


As long as we're talking hypotheticals, wouldn't selling BBC Two and BBC Four esentially get rid of the corporation's whole raison d'être? It might as well shut down everything if (God forbid) that were ever to happen. I mean, you could still run most of BBC One on a commercial basis, but not Two or Four.

I think they mean turn the bbc in basically a news service only.
BM11978 posts since 2 Jun 2017
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Oh dear for the UK. Dead bottom will unleash a wave of anti Europeanism on social media and in the (Anti - BBC) press. Even more political takes than usual will be drawn from it.
Contest unlikely to finish until midnight UK time going by the rehearsals.
That reminds me - I was surprised when i watched 2003 on you tube how Wogan barely mentioned the Nul Point at the end of the show - the exciting finish (the last until 2016's changes.) got all the intention. I think he personally rated the Turkish song as well which helped.
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Jonwo (previously Jonwo87) 638 posts since 20 Sep 2007
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Oh dear for the UK. Dead bottom will unleash a wave of anti Europeanism on social media and in the (Anti - BBC) press. Even more political takes than usual will be drawn from it.
Contest unlikely to finish until midnight UK time going by the rehearsals.
That reminds me - I was surprised when i watched 2003 on you tube how Wogan barely mentioned the Nul Point at the end of the show - the exciting finish (the last until 2016's changes.) got all the intention. I think he personally rated the Turkish song as well which helped.


Can't you just watch something and enjoy it rather than spread doom and gloom.
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bilky asko5,498 posts since 9 Sep 2006
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Oh dear for the UK. Dead bottom will unleash a wave of anti Europeanism on social media and in the (Anti - BBC) press. Even more political takes than usual will be drawn from it.
Contest unlikely to finish until midnight UK time going by the rehearsals.
That reminds me - I was surprised when i watched 2003 on you tube how Wogan barely mentioned the Nul Point at the end of the show - the exciting finish (the last until 2016's changes.) got all the intention. I think he personally rated the Turkish song as well which helped.


Is this the same press poll that had Israel in 8th last year, France as the winners, Finland in 5th, and Austria in Joint 23rd (Actual places 1st, 13th, 25th, 3rd)? I'm not sure it's worth taking it seriously.
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Inspector Sands13,765 posts since 25 Aug 2004
Will the BBC continue to fund a large chunk of the EBU budget? We are hated by all of Europe, why do we bother providing millions to the EBU and then be treated like crap?

Please explain how the EBU treats the 'BBC like crap' or is it just one of these things you make up and say which gets challenged and you never respond to?


The BBC pays its share into the EBU. It is and always has been one of the most important members. It's always been well treated and respected in my experience
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Gary McEwan3,409 posts since 23 May 2011
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Oh dear for the UK. Dead bottom will unleash a wave of anti Europeanism on social media and in the (Anti - BBC) press. Even more political takes than usual will be drawn from it.
Contest unlikely to finish until midnight UK time going by the rehearsals.
That reminds me - I was surprised when i watched 2003 on you tube how Wogan barely mentioned the Nul Point at the end of the show - the exciting finish (the last until 2016's changes.) got all the intention. I think he personally rated the Turkish song as well which helped.


Have you got anything good to say about the Contest?

Fancy not putting a downer on the rest of us that actually do enjoy it?
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Tumble Tower1,291 posts since 13 Apr 2007
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Today is Saturday 18 May 2019. The Eurovision Song Contest 2019 Grand Final takes place at the Expo Tel Aviv (International Convention Center), Tel Aviv, Israel tonight, starting at 20:00 BST. The 26 countries taking part tonight, in order of appearance, will be:
Malta, Albania, Czech Republic, Germany, Russia, Denmark, San Marino, North Macedonia, Sweden, Slovenia, Cyprus, Netherlands, Greece, Israel, Norway, United Kingdom, Iceland, Estonia, Belarus, Azerbaijan, France, Italy, Serbia, Switzerland, Australia, Spain.

Of course, as a UK citizen, I would like Michael Rice to win tonight with the UK's entry "Bigger Than Us", especially as it's now 22 years since the UK last won the Eurovision Song Contest in 1997. However if bookies' odds are anything to go by, the Netherlands are most likely to win tonight, with Duncan Laurence's performance of "Arcade". If that wins, the Netherlands will have had 44 years gap between wins (1975 - 2019). Failing that, the most likely alternative winner looks set to be Australia, or perhaps Switzerland. Still, bookies' odds aren't the be all and end all; anything could happen tonight.

There are a few songs I wish hadn't qualified for the Grand Final. I still think Poland, Hungary and Belgium ought to have qualified place of Czech Republic, Iceland and San Marino on Tuesday evening, but it's no good moaning about that now. I can't expect to have all the songs I like in both semi-finals reach the Grand Final, and have all the songs I dislike weeded out in the semi-finals. On Tuesday evening I was convinced both Czech Republic and Iceland would be in the Grand Final.

Anyway good luck to all 26 finalists in Tel Aviv tonight. May the best song win.
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