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Costa & Coop p68: Repeats on ITV3: Are there too many spoilers?

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JA
JAS84
I wonder what happened to Bettabuy, Superscoops and Firman's Freezers?

With the Co-Op and Dev's as well, how do they all stay in business?

Firmans was the one taken over by Freshcos in the plot back in the day. Eric Firman was a character in the show.

The fact they use the ITV exterior so often wouldn’t be so noticeable if it didn’t have such distinctive brickwork. I doubt 99% of viewers will notice though.

And actually there was actually a plot about Freschos moving to a new store, although with Pat Phelan involved it’s debatable if it was ever built. https://coronationstreet.fandom.com/wiki/Freshco

The one on the precinct is probably now a Quidland or M & B Bargains. Laughing
Didn't Bettabuy become Freshco?
JA
james-2001
If ITV3 do put out the 23rd December episode tomorrow it means we'll have had 3 episodes in reverse order.
SB
steve brown
on Christmas day 1991,we had 2 eps of Corrie,the edition at 1450 had the Queen's speech on at the traditional 1500 hour
JA
james-2001
JAS84 posted:
Didn't Bettabuy become Freshco?


No, Curly left Bettabuy in 1994 (apparently because the new Sunday trading laws came into effect and stopped them being able to use the branch of Morrisons for filming any more), briefly moved to Superscoops, then to Firman's Freezers- which apparently is what became Freshco (even though they were represented by entirely different shops on screen- Firman's was a Farmfoods, Freshco was a Somerfield which was about triple the size).
JA
james-2001
Looks like ITV3 handled the queen's speech gap differently to G+. Rather than swapping scenes around, they cut out the scene of Alf turning off his TV after the queen's speech, and the advert break was inserted much later in the episode (where G+ had the Part 2/3 split).

Heard a quick blast of the ITV Generic ident music coming out of Alf's TV as well which wasn't on the G+ version.

Interesting that the End Of Part One/Two/Three captions on the Granada Plus version look genuine and not mocked up as well (albeit the backgrounds for the break captions they didn't come into use until 1992) possibly implies G+ used a version made for international export (especially as there weren't any episodes with an end of part 2/Part 3 at the time G+ could have taken the captions from- and the mocked up captions they used on their omnibuses used a different font), along with the different music coming out of Alf's TV (maybe the 1989 ITV generic theme couldn't be cleared for broadcast outside the UK?).
Last edited by james-2001 on 20 March 2019 4:55pm - 3 times in total
JE
Jez Founding member
It's possible there being two episodes dated 25th December 1991 is what caused today's mistake. Or it could just be a coincidence. People on DS classic corrie thread overreacting as usual! Not the first time an incorrect episode of a soap has been played by a tv station. Just human error, it happens. It will be interesting to see what they do tomorrow. And also for the 6am repeat. I'm going to record the repeat just incase. I like the idea of doing a Christmas Day episode in the afternoon and one in the evening. It could even fill the slot immediately after the Queens Speech rather than surround it. And then have a half hour in the evening. I don't think they would now however but it was nice to seen them try something different in 1991
JA
james-2001
Jez posted:
It's possible there being two episodes dated 25th December 1991 is what caused today's mistake.


Maybe, but how does that explain how they'd miss the 23rd December episode too? Plus the two 1991 episodes would be identified for their correct order by their production codes (Corriepedia says the production codes for those episodes are P694/2332 & 2333, and 2331 for the 23/12/91 episode), I imagine that's how they're catalogued).

I've set to record the 6AM repeats anyway, just in case they show the 23rd episode there.

Overreacting is a DS speciality anyway.
SC
Si-Co
Regarding what was originally the first of the Christmas Day episodes, which scene immediately followed the Queens Speech on the original broadcast?

I understand G+ swapped round scenes to disguise the “gap”, inserting the Alma and Mike scene in between. On ITV3, we went from Alf turning on the TV to Alma and Mike, so I’m unclear as to what scene (if any) ITV3 omitted or how they disguised the gap.
RE
Revolution
Has that ever happened before: continuing drama episodes aired in wrong order? Only example that springs to mind is Crossroads, not that the viewing majority noticed. Very Happy
JA
james-2001
Si-Co posted:
Regarding what was originally the first of the Christmas Day episodes, which scene immediately followed the Queens Speech on the original broadcast?

I understand G+ swapped round scenes to disguise the “gap”, inserting the Alma and Mike scene in between. On ITV3, we went from Alf turning on the TV to Alma and Mike, so I’m unclear as to what scene (if any) ITV3 omitted or how they disguised the gap.


As I already said in the post above, they cut out the scene where Alf got up and turned the TV off. The two scenes that G+ swapped around were shown in their original order.
JA
james-2001
Has that ever happened before: continuing drama episodes aired in wrong order? Only example that springs to mind is Crossroads, not that the viewing majority noticed. Very Happy


Probably not happened in the original broadcast, but may well have happened on repeats. I know G+ put out the wrong Corrie omnibus edition one week, if that counts, showing it several weeks earlier than they should have (which I guess gives a clue to how far ahead G+ edited the episodes- there's presumably several weeks of 1994 episodes they edited which never got shown!).
SC
Si-Co
Has that ever happened before: continuing drama episodes aired in wrong order? Only example that springs to mind is Crossroads, not that the viewing majority noticed. Very Happy


I remember in the mid 80s TSW inadvertently repeated an episode of Crossroads from the day before (is that the same example you meant, Rev?). AFAIK only they were affected (and possibly Channel, if this was pre-1986). Not sure what they did to get back on track.

Channel Ten in Australia once inadvertently skipped an episode of Neighbours in around 2004. By this point all affiliates were either sceeening it via the Ten feed or recording it to time-shift, so AFAIK that episode was never shown in Australia. They removed Neighbours from the schedule on Good Friday that year to get back in sync.

There were a couple of examples of ITV regions skipping episodes of imports, either deliberately or inadvertently. Wikipedia, if reliable, states that YTV viewers saw an episode of ACP from another region on one occasion due to a fire alarm, and the existing circuit from that region was left to play out clean to YTV.

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