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That would take 2021 at least?
NJ
Neil Jones
Founding member
In the case of EastEnders its probably around the time they went to the 4th weekly episode which was in was it 2001?
I dare say "classic" is stereotypically word for "old" so presumably by the time it went widescreen which looks like it was at some point in 1999 fits the "classic" definition (Coronation Street and Emmerdale were still 4:3 as late as 2002 apparently for whatever reason).
I dare say "classic" is stereotypically word for "old" so presumably by the time it went widescreen which looks like it was at some point in 1999 fits the "classic" definition (Coronation Street and Emmerdale were still 4:3 as late as 2002 apparently for whatever reason).
JA
It will take a hell of a lot longer than 2021 to catch up, they wouldn't even be out of the 90s by then, if they even are still showing them.
Remember when UK Gold first started showing EE in 1992, the first episode was only a little over 7 1/2 years old, which was clearly enough for them to class it as "gold" and "classic" at the time, which is a hell of a lot closer than the current Drama gap of a little over 31 years, or even the ITV3 Emmerdale gap of 29 and the Corrie gap of 27 1/2.
I think the first UK Gold run ran into 1996, to I think the point where they went 3 times a week in April 1994, so at that point they were showing episodes from only 2 years behind. And when I was watching their showings in the 00s, they were still only around 3-5 years behind during that time. Granada Plus were showing Emmerdale from 2001 when they closed down in 2004, so these "classic" runs in the past have got very close to the present.
Remember when UK Gold first started showing EE in 1992, the first episode was only a little over 7 1/2 years old, which was clearly enough for them to class it as "gold" and "classic" at the time, which is a hell of a lot closer than the current Drama gap of a little over 31 years, or even the ITV3 Emmerdale gap of 29 and the Corrie gap of 27 1/2.
I think the first UK Gold run ran into 1996, to I think the point where they went 3 times a week in April 1994, so at that point they were showing episodes from only 2 years behind. And when I was watching their showings in the 00s, they were still only around 3-5 years behind during that time. Granada Plus were showing Emmerdale from 2001 when they closed down in 2004, so these "classic" runs in the past have got very close to the present.
LL
Having the 80s/90s back catalogue of EE on Britbox will be more an incentive to pay than to watch for free on Drama or watch on UKTV Play for a limited period.
London Lite
Founding member
There's a chance Drama won't make it to 2021 and every single episode will be on Britbox.
Having the 80s/90s back catalogue of EE on Britbox will be more an incentive to pay than to watch for free on Drama or watch on UKTV Play for a limited period.
JB
Didn't UK Gold re-wind to the beginning when they caught up with Eastenders after the first run?
It will take a hell of a lot longer than 2021 to catch up, they wouldn't even be out of the 90s by then, if they even are still showing them.
Remember when UK Gold first started showing EE in 1992, the first episode was only a little over 7 1/2 years old, which was clearly enough for them to class it as "gold" and "classic" at the time, which is a hell of a lot closer than the current Drama gap of a little over 31 years, or even the ITV3 Emmerdale gap of 29 and the Corrie gap of 27 1/2.
I think the first UK Gold run ran into 1996, to I think the point where they went 3 times a week in April 1994, so at that point they were showing episodes from only 2 years behind. And when I was watching their showings in the 00s, they were still only around 3-5 years behind during that time. Granada Plus were showing Emmerdale from 2001 when they closed down in 2004, so these "classic" runs in the past have got very close to the present.
Remember when UK Gold first started showing EE in 1992, the first episode was only a little over 7 1/2 years old, which was clearly enough for them to class it as "gold" and "classic" at the time, which is a hell of a lot closer than the current Drama gap of a little over 31 years, or even the ITV3 Emmerdale gap of 29 and the Corrie gap of 27 1/2.
I think the first UK Gold run ran into 1996, to I think the point where they went 3 times a week in April 1994, so at that point they were showing episodes from only 2 years behind. And when I was watching their showings in the 00s, they were still only around 3-5 years behind during that time. Granada Plus were showing Emmerdale from 2001 when they closed down in 2004, so these "classic" runs in the past have got very close to the present.
Didn't UK Gold re-wind to the beginning when they caught up with Eastenders after the first run?
RN
Didn't UK Gold re-wind to the beginning when they caught up with Eastenders after the first run?
I'm pretty sure UK Gold stopped showing repeats altogether in 2007. By that time they were up to around 2004. Although I don't know if they'd already caught up a few years before and rewound then?
It will take a hell of a lot longer than 2021 to catch up, they wouldn't even be out of the 90s by then, if they even are still showing them.
Remember when UK Gold first started showing EE in 1992, the first episode was only a little over 7 1/2 years old, which was clearly enough for them to class it as "gold" and "classic" at the time, which is a hell of a lot closer than the current Drama gap of a little over 31 years, or even the ITV3 Emmerdale gap of 29 and the Corrie gap of 27 1/2.
I think the first UK Gold run ran into 1996, to I think the point where they went 3 times a week in April 1994, so at that point they were showing episodes from only 2 years behind. And when I was watching their showings in the 00s, they were still only around 3-5 years behind during that time. Granada Plus were showing Emmerdale from 2001 when they closed down in 2004, so these "classic" runs in the past have got very close to the present.
Remember when UK Gold first started showing EE in 1992, the first episode was only a little over 7 1/2 years old, which was clearly enough for them to class it as "gold" and "classic" at the time, which is a hell of a lot closer than the current Drama gap of a little over 31 years, or even the ITV3 Emmerdale gap of 29 and the Corrie gap of 27 1/2.
I think the first UK Gold run ran into 1996, to I think the point where they went 3 times a week in April 1994, so at that point they were showing episodes from only 2 years behind. And when I was watching their showings in the 00s, they were still only around 3-5 years behind during that time. Granada Plus were showing Emmerdale from 2001 when they closed down in 2004, so these "classic" runs in the past have got very close to the present.
Didn't UK Gold re-wind to the beginning when they caught up with Eastenders after the first run?
I'm pretty sure UK Gold stopped showing repeats altogether in 2007. By that time they were up to around 2004. Although I don't know if they'd already caught up a few years before and rewound then?
JA
I think UK Gold kept showing them until they became comedy only, then they moved over to Watch for a few months. They were into the mid-00s by then though, and I'd mostly lost interest.
Funnily enough Neighbours stayed on GOLD for a few months after it became 100% comedy, they ran it until they reached the point it moved to Channel 5.
Funnily enough Neighbours stayed on GOLD for a few months after it became 100% comedy, they ran it until they reached the point it moved to Channel 5.
SC
Didn't UK Gold re-wind to the beginning when they caught up with Eastenders after the first run?
Yes, in around 1996 they looped back to the very first episode - probably because they had almost caught up with the current BBC One episodes.
It will take a hell of a lot longer than 2021 to catch up, they wouldn't even be out of the 90s by then, if they even are still showing them.
Remember when UK Gold first started showing EE in 1992, the first episode was only a little over 7 1/2 years old, which was clearly enough for them to class it as "gold" and "classic" at the time, which is a hell of a lot closer than the current Drama gap of a little over 31 years, or even the ITV3 Emmerdale gap of 29 and the Corrie gap of 27 1/2.
I think the first UK Gold run ran into 1996, to I think the point where they went 3 times a week in April 1994, so at that point they were showing episodes from only 2 years behind. And when I was watching their showings in the 00s, they were still only around 3-5 years behind during that time. Granada Plus were showing Emmerdale from 2001 when they closed down in 2004, so these "classic" runs in the past have got very close to the present.
Remember when UK Gold first started showing EE in 1992, the first episode was only a little over 7 1/2 years old, which was clearly enough for them to class it as "gold" and "classic" at the time, which is a hell of a lot closer than the current Drama gap of a little over 31 years, or even the ITV3 Emmerdale gap of 29 and the Corrie gap of 27 1/2.
I think the first UK Gold run ran into 1996, to I think the point where they went 3 times a week in April 1994, so at that point they were showing episodes from only 2 years behind. And when I was watching their showings in the 00s, they were still only around 3-5 years behind during that time. Granada Plus were showing Emmerdale from 2001 when they closed down in 2004, so these "classic" runs in the past have got very close to the present.
Didn't UK Gold re-wind to the beginning when they caught up with Eastenders after the first run?
Yes, in around 1996 they looped back to the very first episode - probably because they had almost caught up with the current BBC One episodes.
JA
I already posted this a few posts back (in fact in the post that's quoted)- they reached the point where the show went three times a week (April 1994- so a gap of around 2 years).
Wasn't immediate, there was a break of a few months where they weren't showing it.
Most of the episodes for the first few years of the second run didn't have any end credits either, they just stuck about half of the title sequence on the end of the episodes, and usually (but not always) the copyright date. Thankfully none of these have turned up on Drama, and we've always had the original end credits (with one exception, where we got the credits from the 1995 BBC1 daytime run of the first 70-odd episodes) despite their length.
A (copyrightless) example from a 1993 episode here. The audio splicing is terrible!
Not sure how long it lasted, but I've seen examples of it from episodes from 1995, which they would have been showing in the early part of 2001. They'd stopped doing it by the time I started watching the UK Gold repeats regularly later that year (when they were into 1996).
I did wonder if the length of the credits was why they did it, but they cut down the length of the credits in 1991, and again in 1994, and UK Gold were still at least occasionally doing it on episodes from 1995 where it would barely be any shorter than the credits on the original episode.
Wasn't immediate, there was a break of a few months where they weren't showing it.
Most of the episodes for the first few years of the second run didn't have any end credits either, they just stuck about half of the title sequence on the end of the episodes, and usually (but not always) the copyright date. Thankfully none of these have turned up on Drama, and we've always had the original end credits (with one exception, where we got the credits from the 1995 BBC1 daytime run of the first 70-odd episodes) despite their length.
A (copyrightless) example from a 1993 episode here. The audio splicing is terrible!
Not sure how long it lasted, but I've seen examples of it from episodes from 1995, which they would have been showing in the early part of 2001. They'd stopped doing it by the time I started watching the UK Gold repeats regularly later that year (when they were into 1996).
I did wonder if the length of the credits was why they did it, but they cut down the length of the credits in 1991, and again in 1994, and UK Gold were still at least occasionally doing it on episodes from 1995 where it would barely be any shorter than the credits on the original episode.
JA
Also, speaking of EastEnders credits, I just came across this on YouTube-
Clean end credit sequences. This one from 1989:
I notice the drums at the start play over a black screen at this point, we saw some 1985/86 episodes on Drama where they cut to the credits it bit too soon (including on episode 1) and they played over a static shot of the map (starting to move once the music starts).
This one is from 1991 (after they cut the length down). Interestingly from the short period they introduced a new arangement of the theme tune (sounds quite similar to the 1994 version), before changing back to the original
Here from 1992 (after going back to the original):
I think having the copyright date burned in was the reason why EE kept the old BBC logo until the end of 1997, they didn't want to re-edit it for a few month's use.
They re-did the opening titles in 1990 as well, by doing what looks like rescanning the original film- so the quality's a bit higher, and you see a bit more of the map in the end shot, and using an electronically generated EastEnders caption, rather than the optical film caption of the 1985 titles.
Clean end credit sequences. This one from 1989:
I notice the drums at the start play over a black screen at this point, we saw some 1985/86 episodes on Drama where they cut to the credits it bit too soon (including on episode 1) and they played over a static shot of the map (starting to move once the music starts).
This one is from 1991 (after they cut the length down). Interestingly from the short period they introduced a new arangement of the theme tune (sounds quite similar to the 1994 version), before changing back to the original
Here from 1992 (after going back to the original):
I think having the copyright date burned in was the reason why EE kept the old BBC logo until the end of 1997, they didn't want to re-edit it for a few month's use.
They re-did the opening titles in 1990 as well, by doing what looks like rescanning the original film- so the quality's a bit higher, and you see a bit more of the map in the end shot, and using an electronically generated EastEnders caption, rather than the optical film caption of the 1985 titles.