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Brekkie29,992 posts since 4 Jan 2003 Recently warned
HTV Wales Wales Today
Well it seems after a week, the UKTV channels will remain off Virgin Media for the foreseeable future. Has anyone heard any progress? It must be costing UKTV and Virgin a lot for these channels off now for a week. The silence from both sides, and the feeling from UKTV's twitter account is that - hey we are on everywhere else, so just move, is a pathetic attitude to the four million subscribers to Virgin **** hole.

Really surprised you have time to keep making that post considering you now have ZooMoo HD and IQTV to keep you entertained.
Shouldn't that have been posted in the "John Logie Baird has Invented Television" thread?
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Steve in Pudsey9,469 posts since 4 Jan 2003
Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
BT getting in on the act now



Write that down in your copybook now.
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JKDerry998 posts since 15 Oct 2016 Recently warned
UTV Newsline
Really surprised you have time to keep making that post considering you now have ZooMoo HD and IQTV to keep you entertained.


Don't forget Horse & Country. I'm suprised he even has time to sleep with the excitement and all the quality content on there.

Thankfully I have Freesat in the house, so I can access some of the UKTV channels. Just the hassle of not having it on my main TV
Kunst345 posts since 29 Jun 2016
BBC World
What’s the chances of the UKTV brand being reintroduced as a prefix for each channel? Always thought it strengthened the identity before but now many casual viewers would have no idea some of those channels were even from the same family. Incoherent branding aside, it could certainly make their absence from the Virgin platform more apparent

I honestly hope they don't do that

Yes, someone will criticise me for this, but I think the channels are stronger now, with an individual identity for each channel. It's more "fun", an adding a "UKTV" prefix just would make them blander - that's really not where the problem lies

This is no Sky - UKTV doesn't have a platform, and in addition to all of that, "UKTV" + something else doesn't sound as good as "Sky" + something else
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London Lite9,722 posts since 4 Jan 2003
London London
What’s the chances of the UKTV brand being reintroduced as a prefix for each channel? Always thought it strengthened the identity before but now many casual viewers would have no idea some of those channels were even from the same family. Incoherent branding aside, it could certainly make their absence from the Virgin platform more apparent

I honestly hope they don't do that

Yes, someone will criticise me for this, but I think the channels are stronger now, with an individual identity for each channel. It's more "fun", an adding a "UKTV" prefix just would make them blander - that's really not where the problem lies

This is no Sky - UKTV doesn't have a platform, and in addition to all of that, "UKTV" + something else doesn't sound as good as "Sky" + something else


Indeed it's a content and how they distribute issue, which has led to VM's devaluation of the portfolio.
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Woodpecker214 posts since 19 Jan 2018
Central (West) Midlands Today
What’s the chances of the UKTV brand being reintroduced as a prefix for each channel? Always thought it strengthened the identity before but now many casual viewers would have no idea some of those channels were even from the same family. Incoherent branding aside, it could certainly make their absence from the Virgin platform more apparent

I honestly hope they don't do that

Yes, someone will criticise me for this, but I think the channels are stronger now, with an individual identity for each channel. It's more "fun", an adding a "UKTV" prefix just would make them blander - that's really not where the problem lies

This is no Sky - UKTV doesn't have a platform, and in addition to all of that, "UKTV" + something else doesn't sound as good as "Sky" + something else


Exactly! I think the problem with the UKTV prefix is that it's 4 syllables, making it sound clunky. Sky is one syllable, and it's snappy, hence why IMO that prefix works.
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Larry the Loafer5,351 posts since 2 Jul 2005
Granada North West Today
As great as the Dave rebrand turned out to be, I'm still lukewarm over how UKTV took the same approach with the rest of the channels, and that includes watering down the strength of the UKTV brand. Then again, they have the UKTV brand integrated into the DOG, programme menus, the UKTV Play service, and the UKTV Original stings. I wouldn't say the majority of people won't know what UKTV is or what channels they operate.
dbl9,012 posts since 11 Jun 2004
London London
I wouldn't say the majority of people won't know what UKTV is or what channels they operate.

Think the opposite, it's strengthened the channels brands, but it's weakened the UKTV brand. UKTV Play is fighting hard because of this.

If you look at the broadcaster on-demand services and brand association...

BBC iPlayer - BBC One, BBC Two, BBC Three, BBC Four, BBC Radio
ITV Hub - ITV, ITV2, ITV3, ITV4, ITVBe
All 4 - Channel 4, E4, More 4, Film 4, 4seven
My 5 - Channel 5, 5 Star, 5 USA, 5 Select, 5 Spike

etc..

You see the pattern? Because the parent name is attached to the channels, it's easier for viewers to associate the parent brand. UKTV Play has an issue because viewers have basically 'forgotten' what UKTV is as a brand and no UKTV animated DOG or network menu is solving this.

Their current branding strategy was great back in 2007, but the landscape has changed and VOD is competition, they need to strengthen their brand, even if it's a soft launch by adding a prefix back onto the EPG
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Woodpecker214 posts since 19 Jan 2018
Central (West) Midlands Today
I wouldn't say the majority of people won't know what UKTV is or what channels they operate.

Think the opposite, it's strengthened the channels brands, but it's weakened the UKTV brand. UKTV Play is fighting hard because of this.

If you look at the broadcaster on-demand services and brand association...

BBC iPlayer - BBC One, BBC Two, BBC Three, BBC Four, BBC Radio
ITV Hub - ITV, ITV2, ITV3, ITV4, ITVBe
All 4 - Channel 4, E4, More 4, Film 4, 4seven
My 5 - Channel 5, 5 Star, 5 USA, 5 Select, 5 Spike

etc..

You see the pattern? Because the parent name is attached to the channels, it's easier for viewers to associate the parent brand. UKTV Play has an issue because viewers have basically 'forgotten' what UKTV is as a brand and no UKTV animated DOG or network menu is solving this.


I suppose they could always bring the 'UK' prefix back, and as for Play, how about going back to the future... Wink