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LH
lhx1985
What would they be swapping a defunct Aston for? Would regional centres get Vizrt?
I know that BBC Scotland are using CasparCG extensively for things like sportscene, election coverage and the off-air screen for BBC Alba - would they roll this out to the English regions for news?
MW
Mike W
Possibly, Midlands Today seem to be slowly replacing their now 14 year old (and 19ish year old technology) hardware, the vision mixer crashed on air not so long back, twice in a month.
Now the graphics seem to have changed, and better for it they look!

Hopefully blurry monstrosities like this are a thing of the past, unless the vaseline look was part of the brief:
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For comparison, and I know 9/10 people won't have noticed it (hence why I've added an orange line to help you see it) - the old position/offset of the text
The old aston is at the bottom, the 'new' at the top
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Last edited by Mike W on 5 June 2018 8:44am
SP
Steve in Pudsey
Did they get a new mixer or one that is new to them? With so many studios closing lately you could imagine being able to pick up a second hand stopgap to keep them going until virtualization.
WO
Worzel

For comparison, and I know 9/10 people won't have noticed it (hence why I've added an orange line to help you see it) - the old position/offset of the text
The old aston is at the bottom, the 'new' at the top
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Top looks like a Viz generated strap, bottom is definitely Aston.

Does the top strap animate on screen (nationals style) or fade on/off?
MW
Mike W
The top animates (as of this morning they all animate, including the 'pictures from' box, location strap and one and two line supers)

I'd agree with your assessment, it's either Viz or even CasparCG

The two lines of text are a few pixels higher with the space between the lines reduced as well. The animation is reasonably smooth and the astons (err, vizzes?) don't appear to stop short of the edge of the screen anymore, there is also less 'feathering' around the writing on the strap, suggesting to me that it's either being downscaled or just matches the frame size better.
WO
Worzel
The top animates (as of this morning they all animate, including the 'pictures from' box, location strap and one and two line supers)


Looks like they've now got a Viz engine installed.
MW
Mike W
By the 1325 they were back to the aston/fade on and off...

Soft launch or has the pres gallery been upgraded recently and it's just waiting to be fitted to the normal prod gallery?
SP
Steve in Pudsey
The Astons may be burned in on the Breakfast VTs. They run with such minimal staffing in the gallery that it became common practice in some regions to add them to the packages in post so there was less to think about in the gallery.
IS
Inspector Sands
The Astons may be burned in on the Breakfast VTs. They run with such minimal staffing in the gallery that it became common practice in some regions to add them to the packages in post so there was less to think about in the gallery.

Surely it takes more time and effort to put them onto the items in the edit than live in the gallery?

Most items in a breakfast bulletin are underlays or SOTs and they're clipped up the night before or that morning by journalists in desktops rather than craft editors.

Newsroom production systems and gallery automation have been able to do automated captions for a long while. Burning them into something cut on a desktop edit system normally requires them being played through a gallery, recorded and then reclipped
SP
Steve in Pudsey
Would it not just be a template in the editing system?

We're going back a few years but it was said that Look North added them in the edit, but that was when their Breakfast bulletins were self op.
NG
noggin Founding member
If a BBC English regional centre gets a new character generator - my money will be on CasparCG not VizRT these days.
IS
Inspector Sands
Would it not just be a template in the editing system?

News edit systems I've known haven't had the greatest graphics capabilities, certainly not producing captions like the sort that a graphics system like Viz can put out. Desktop edits definitely not.

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