The Newsroom

International News Presentation: Past and Present

(February 2007)

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CI
cityprod
TVNZ1, New Zealand; Maori-language news, 2018:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kVf9xd-lzU

This is the first time I saw Te Karere being subtitled in English. Also the newsroom is somewhat noisy.

Is TVNZ a public broadcaster or merely a commercial broadcaster? Does TVNZ consider airing Te Karere as an obligation considering that the Maori language is one of the languages used in New Zealand? How about Maori Television?

Are there any differences between Te Karere and TVNZ 1 News?

Excuse me if these questions have been discussed before on this thread or on this forum.


TVNZ is a state-owned, commercially funded broadcaster, not unlike Channel 4. They are however more regarded as the New Zealand equivalent of the BBC, a public broadcaster, just commercially funded instead of through a licence fee.

1 News is a news bulletin for everyone, whilst Te Karere, is not merely a news bulletin in the Maori language, it is specifically targetted for the Maori-speaking communities, sometimes also called First Nationers, which is a term that is sometimes used to refer to native peoples in other countries too.
HA
Hazimworks
MBC Newsdesk - Live from Pyeongchang (Feb. 8, 2018):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2e52KdE9mo
KBS NEWS 9 - Live from Pyeongchang (Feb. 9, 2018):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYRUk_i3X1Q

And a bunch of changes from South Korean TV stations:
1) Channel A's main news program - News A received a new intro on Feb. 5, 2018.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkc_pHzclfw
2) TV Chosun adjusted the new intros of its main news program - News 9 (weekdays) and News 7 (weekends) that rebranded a couple of months ago.
News 9 - Intro on Jan. 31, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQqm8C1DFMI
News 7 - Intro on Jan. 28, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMOKzhrDeS8

Skipping KBS and MBC aside, the Channel A news theme feels like NTV Russia's (the 2000s one). Especially at the end.
HA
Hazimworks
TVNZ1, New Zealand; Maori-language news, 2018:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kVf9xd-lzU

This is the first time I saw Te Karere being subtitled in English. Also the newsroom is somewhat noisy.

Is TVNZ a public broadcaster or merely a commercial broadcaster? Does TVNZ consider airing Te Karere as an obligation considering that the Maori language is one of the languages used in New Zealand? How about Maori Television?

Are there any differences between Te Karere and TVNZ 1 News?

Excuse me if these questions have been discussed before on this thread or on this forum.


TVNZ is a state-owned, commercially funded broadcaster, not unlike Channel 4. They are however more regarded as the New Zealand equivalent of the BBC, a public broadcaster, just commercially funded instead of through a licence fee.

1 News is a news bulletin for everyone, whilst Te Karere, is not merely a news bulletin in the Maori language, it is specifically targetted for the Maori-speaking communities, sometimes also called First Nationers, which is a term that is sometimes used to refer to native peoples in other countries too.


So TVNZ is more like my country's RTM then.
CI
cityprod
This is the first time I saw Te Karere being subtitled in English. Also the newsroom is somewhat noisy.

Is TVNZ a public broadcaster or merely a commercial broadcaster? Does TVNZ consider airing Te Karere as an obligation considering that the Maori language is one of the languages used in New Zealand? How about Maori Television?

Are there any differences between Te Karere and TVNZ 1 News?

Excuse me if these questions have been discussed before on this thread or on this forum.


TVNZ is a state-owned, commercially funded broadcaster, not unlike Channel 4. They are however more regarded as the New Zealand equivalent of the BBC, a public broadcaster, just commercially funded instead of through a licence fee.

1 News is a news bulletin for everyone, whilst Te Karere, is not merely a news bulletin in the Maori language, it is specifically targetted for the Maori-speaking communities, sometimes also called First Nationers, which is a term that is sometimes used to refer to native peoples in other countries too.


So TVNZ is more like my country's RTM then.


The Television side only, yes.
PE
penguin_kevin
Also worth noting that France's commercial rolling news channels also in effect close down overnight, leaving a loop of a bulletin presented at midnight.

There is a duty presenter who presents the midnight hour (on BFMTV) who is ready to go live if there's any breaking news.


This gives rise to the interesting fact the franceinfo: is the only channel that's live through the night, even though its breakfast slot starts the latest among all 4 French free-to-air news channels. As demonstrated when news of music icon Johnny Hallyday's death broke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_6Itkm7aJM

Also, as I read in the pre-launch coverage of France 2's le 6h info , franceinfo: is barred from simulcasting by law. http://www.programme-tv.net/news/tv/111564-le-6h-info-que-verrez-vous-dans-cette-nouvelle-matinale-de-france-2/
Quote:
Notons qu'entre 6h et 6h30, franceinfo: diffusera dorénavant le signal de France 24 car la chaîne n'a pas le droit de proposer ses programmes sur deux canaux en même temps .

Meanwhile, LCI is known to have been simulcast on TF1 during breaking news events. Would any forum member be able to explain that in detail?
BB
BBI45

Also, as I read in the pre-launch coverage of France 2's le 6h info , franceinfo: is barred from simulcasting by law. http://www.programme-tv.net/news/tv/111564-le-6h-info-que-verrez-vous-dans-cette-nouvelle-matinale-de-france-2/
Quote:
Notons qu'entre 6h et 6h30, franceinfo: diffusera dorénavant le signal de France 24 car la chaîne n'a pas le droit de proposer ses programmes sur deux canaux en même temps .

I don't know why that is, but it has been ignored on at least 1 occasion (and back to Johnny Hallyday):



Meanwhile, LCI is known to have been simulcast on TF1 during breaking news events. Would any forum member be able to explain that in detail?

I'm not sure what you are getting at here. If you are wondering if there is some kind of agreement, then you should know that TF1 and LCI are owned by the same company. That is as far as my knowledge goes.
QN
Quatorzine Neko
In France, simulcasts of the same program on two different channels are forbidden, because it would diminish "the pluralism of expression".

The Conseil Supérieur de l'Audiovisuel made it clear in 2012, after channel D8 (now C8 ) used to simulcast i>Télé's morning news.

It is also forbidden to broadcast the same programme on two different channels if there's less than one hour of difference between the two channels.

There are, however, a few exceptions to this rule: snippets used for news programmes, ceremonies, debates, speeches by well-known personalities, and more generally any "programme of particular interest to the audience".

This latter precision can seem a bit blurry. I think simulcasting breaking news (as for Johnny Hallyday's death) would be tolerated, as it could fall in that category. I do not remember, however, if the CSA reacted to France 2 simulcasting Franceinfo's special nuit américaine during the USA presidential elections.

Also, this rule only applies to "terrestrial hertzian channels with a national vocation". This means it doesn't apply to regional programmes which are part of a larger national network. (Which makes sense if we consider France 3's regional stations, for example.) This also means that Franceinfo:'s nightly simulcast of France 24 (which has an international vocation) is considered as OK.

Last thing: "the same programme" means "the same images + the same sounds".

Sources:
The CSA's decision (in French)
An article on the IRIS Merlin database website with some more precisions (in English)
Last edited by Quatorzine Neko on 15 February 2018 5:25pm - 2 times in total
LL
London Lite Founding member
During the Nice attacks, TF1 had the breaking news from LCI with the branding removed.

Going back to the Johnny Hallyday clip, BFMTV starts live output at 0400 normally and CNEWS at 0500 if I recall? (The latter I think is after BFMTV relaunched their early morning bulletin to start at 4am instead of 5)
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SN
The SNT Three
During the Nice attacks, TF1 had the breaking news from LCI with the branding removed.

Going back to the Johnny Hallyday clip, BFMTV starts live output at 0400 normally and CNEWS at 0500 if I recall? (The latter I think is after BFMTV relaunched their early morning bulletin to start at 4am instead of 5)


BFM usually starts at 4:30. LCI at 5:45, CNEWS at 6:00 and Franceinfo: at 6:30.
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S7
sbahnhof 7
So TVNZ is more like my country's RTM then.


The Television side only, yes.



Does RTM have to show a certain number of Malaysian productions? And I guess it runs ads in every program?
S7
sbahnhof 7
TVNZ1, New Zealand; Maori-language news, 2018:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kVf9xd-lzU


This is the first time I saw Te Karere being subtitled in English. Also the newsroom is somewhat noisy.

Is TVNZ a public broadcaster or merely a commercial broadcaster? Does TVNZ consider airing Te Karere as an obligation considering that the Maori language is one of the languages used in New Zealand? How about Maori Television?



Public broadcasting in New Zealand is very fragmented. Funding comes from the government body NZ On Air, set up in 1989, which bankrolls a lot of TV, radio, web series, and even music videos. All of these are hard to fund commercially in a small country.

Any broadcaster can apply with an idea for a show, and indeed any website can. One of the best (and only) recent NZ documentaries, The Valley, about the Afghanistan war, was a co-production of the website Stuff and TV3.

Māori Television is the only real public-service TV broadcaster just now: it's in English and Māori and shows a range of genres on a modest budget, mostly around Māori themes. It's funded by Te Māngai Pāho - like NZ On Air, but to promote Māori culture via media. This money is guaranteed by law, due to the government's historic neglect of the culture.

Its daily news show is Te Kāea:
- https://www.maoritelevision.com/tv/shows/te-kaea
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RNZ (Radio NZ) is a trio of public stations, but RNZ has been branching into video and TV content recently. Generally it's got the most serious journalism in the country, and RNZ National is one of the country's most popular stations because of this.

Some radio programs are televised (on Freeview ch 50 or below). Mostly "radio with pictures" type stuff in John Campbell's living room, but it's a start. Smile This was the election show from 2017:

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnceBjlZsLI&t=29m47s
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TVNZ is commercial but the state gets the profits - usually less than £10m a year. TVNZ could also be compared to Channel 4 schedule-wise, if C4 was having a bad day and showed 90% imports. And if its news was tabloidy and superficial. And the next show was hosted by a duller Kiwi Richard Littlejohn type giving his opinions. Confused

So, not much like C4 or the BBC. It's uncertain what TVNZ's purpose is now - it's largely similar to its commercial rival Three, as the TVNZ charter was abolished in 2011. Each channel has some publicly-funded shows with ads, like the Māori news Te Karere, but the (commercial) TVNZ 1 News got into trouble for a cackhanded survey on race, which a more diverse broadcaster would have avoided. For a 'national broadcaster', it's failing to represent a wide view of the country. I hope it'll get better (the Littlejohn guy has quit...).
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