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JA
james-2001 Central (East) East Midlands Today
But it's a lot easier to have multiple copies in different locations to help prevent that, rather than just a single tape sitting on a shelf.
IS
Inspector Sands
That is true if there's a routine for doing it. But for intentional 'wiping' its much easier... and I speak as someone who has deleted may thousands of hours of video in my career. Most of which was material that was actually suppose to be wiped!
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SC
Si-Co Tyne Tees Look North (North East)
When we talk about “wiping” 2” or 1” tapes, or similar, does the material have to be physically removed from them, or can they just be reused or “recorded over”?
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VM
VMPhil Granada North West Today
LL
Larry the Loafer Granada North West Today
The sinister buzzing probably doesn't help but watching that is downright uncomfortable, especially knowing that's how many long lost gems met their maker. It's like a slaughterhouse for television.
JA
james-2001 Central (East) East Midlands Today
Si-Co posted:
When we talk about “wiping” 2” or 1” tapes, or similar, does the material have to be physically removed from them, or can they just be reused or “recorded over”?


I'm sure you can do it either way, I'm pretty sure there's some partial programmes that survive at the end of tapes that were re-used for something else.

I imagine wiping the tape like with the machine above beforehand probably helps there's no issues from the previous recording though.
DE
deejay Oxford
Yes, though you can simply record over a tape, it’s not so much the stuff that’s ‘underneath’ the new recording, but the stuff that remains further down the tape after you’ve finished or paused an edit. Non continuous timecode and synchs caused havoc with lots of systems. Better to bulk-erase (which is what that machine is, it generates a massive magnetic field which effectively scrambles the oxides on the tape reel in one go, and if you were unlucky stopped your watch in the process).
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VM
VMPhil Granada North West Today
The sinister buzzing probably doesn't help but watching that is downright uncomfortable, especially knowing that's how many long lost gems met their maker. It's like a slaughterhouse for television.



JA
james-2001 Central (East) East Midlands Today
and if you were unlucky stopped your watch in the process


The guy in that video's wearing a watch- oh dear!
JA
JAS84 Yorkshire Look North (E.Yorks & Lincs)
Yes, though you can simply record over a tape, it’s not so much the stuff that’s ‘underneath’ the new recording, but the stuff that remains further down the tape after you’ve finished or paused an edit. Non continuous timecode and synchs caused havoc with lots of systems. Better to bulk-erase (which is what that machine is, it generates a massive magnetic field which effectively scrambles the oxides on the tape reel in one go, and if you were unlucky stopped your watch in the process).
So it's like an EMP? Anyone using one of those nowadays would also need to keep their phone well away, lest it be bricked!
BA
bilky asko Tyne Tees Look North (North East)
JAS84 posted:
Yes, though you can simply record over a tape, it’s not so much the stuff that’s ‘underneath’ the new recording, but the stuff that remains further down the tape after you’ve finished or paused an edit. Non continuous timecode and synchs caused havoc with lots of systems. Better to bulk-erase (which is what that machine is, it generates a massive magnetic field which effectively scrambles the oxides on the tape reel in one go, and if you were unlucky stopped your watch in the process).
So it's like an EMP? Anyone using one of those nowadays would also need to keep their phone well away, lest it be bricked!


Having used a degausser, you generally have a small exclusion zone for electronic devices, and anyone with a pacemaker - though I believe ones for tape aren't anywhere near as powerful as one for hard drives.

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RT
Rich Tea Anglia (West) Look East
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Thanks to Jas84 for beginning a TOTP 1985 thread here. I had been close to beginning a 1984 one last summer here on TV Forum but let it pass, but as there is now one up and running with a couple of familiar names from another popular ad laden forum that I've migrated from then I can't pass up the chance to say a few words after having gone a full year this week since regular comment on the show over on that one and I'm confident of bringing one or two familiar names along here too.

I'll kick off my first TOTP post on here with a full rundown of the top hundred as it stood at the edition of the Top Of The Pops that was shown tonight on BBC4.

I suppose we've got to get used to the basic 30 minute shows now we have just entered the Eastenders era. At least not so many early evening edits, but I always thought 30 minutes was far too short for TOTP at the time.

UK Singles Chart for w/e 9th March 1985. First broadcast by Gary Davies on Radio 1 @ 12.45pm on Tuesday 5th March 1985.

01. (2) Dead Or Alive - You Spin Me Round (Like A Record)
02. (1) Elaine Paige And Barbara Dickson - I Know Him So Well
03. (6) The Commodores - Nightshift
04. (22) Stephen 'Tin Tin' Duffy - Kiss Me
05. (24) Madonna - Material Girl
06. (4) Ashford And Simpson - Solid
07. (9) Prince And The Revolution - Let's Go Crazy/Take Me With U
08. (3) King - Love And Pride {1985}
09. (5) Bruce Springsteen - Dancing In The Dark
10. (7) Howard Jones - Things Can Only Get Better
11. (34) David Cassidy - The Last Kiss
12. (13) Don Henley - The Boys Of Summer
13. (19) Eddy And The Soul Band - Theme From 'shaft'
14. (8 Kirsty Maccoll - A New England
15. (30) Shakin' Stevens - Breaking Up My Heart
16. (26) ZZ Top - Legs
17. (11) Bryan Adams - Run To You
18. (39) Jermaine Jackson - Do What You Do
19. (16) Killing Joke - Love Like Blood
20. (New) Philip Bailey With Phil Collins - Easy Lover
21. (10) The Art Of Noise - Close (To The Edit)
22. (12) Colourfield - Thinking Of You
23. (14) Chicago - You're The Inspiration
24. (17) Sharpe And Numan - Change Your Mind
25. (33) Daryl Hall And John Oates - Method Of Modern Love
26. (New) Paul Young - Every Time You Go Away
27. (18 Billy Ocean - Loverboy
28. (15) Prince - 1999/Little Red Corvette
29. (23) David Bowie And The Pat Metheny Group - This Is Not America
30. (21) Foreigner - I Want To Know What Love Is
31. (44) Go West - We Close Our Eyes
32. (35) Mick Jagger - Just Another Night
33. (36) Little Benny And The Masters - Who Comes To Boogie
34. (25) Phil Collins - Sussudio
35. (20) Russ Abbot - Atmosphere
36. (27) Big Sound Authority - This House (Is Where Your Love Stands)
37. (43) Loose Ends - Hangin' On A String (Contemplating)
38. (46) David Essex - Falling Angels Riding
39. (56) Sheila E - The Belle Of St Mark
40. (47) New Edition - Mr Telephone Man
41. (67) Hazell Dean - No Fool (For Love)
42. (32) Kool And The Gang - Misled
43. (48 The Alarm - Absolute Reality
44. (New) Starvation - Starvation/Tam-Tam Pour L'Ethiope
45. (66) Glenn Frey - The Heat Is On
46. (28 The Smiths - How Soon Is Now
47. (52) The Jesus And Mary Chain - Never Understand
48. (58 Phyllis Nelson - Move Closer
49. (29) Tears For Fears - Shout
50. (31) Ray Parker Jr - Ghostbusters
51. (50) Time Zone - World Destruction
52. (41) George Benson - 20/20
53. (38 Madonna - Like A Virgin
54. (37) Pat Benatar - We Belong
55. (45) Soft Cell - Tainted Love {1985}
56. (59) TC Curtis - You Should Have Known Better
57. (74) Tina Turner - I Can't Stand The Rain
58. (75) Matt Bianco - More Than I Can Bear
59. (63) Elton John - Breaking Hearts
60. (New) Billy Connolly - Super Gran
61. (43) Eugene Wilde/Simplicious - Personality/Let Her Feel It
62. (40) Strawberry Switchblade - Since Yesterday
63. (New) The Sisters Of Mercy - No Time To Cry
64. (New) Third World - Now That We've Found Love {1985}
65. (55) Amii Stewart - Friends
66. (54) The Stranglers - Let Me Down Easy
67. (51) Wham! - Last Christmas/Everything She Wants
68. (New) The Kane Gang - Gun Law
69. (65) The Village People - Sex Over The Phone
70. (49) Cashmere - Can I
71. (57) Band Aid - Do They Know It's Christmas?
72. (New) Ollie And Jerry - Electric Boogaloo
73. (New) Big Daddy - Dancing In The Dark (EP)
74. (64) Frankie Goes To Hollywood - Relax
75. (New) Julian Lennon - Say You're Wrong
76. (61) Julia And Co - I'm So Happy
77. (New) Eric Clapton - Forever Man
78. (69) Midnight Star - Operator
79. (New) UB40 - I'm Not Fooled/The Pillow
80. (68 David Lee Roth - California Girls
81. (67) Chuck Brown And The Soul Searchers - Bustin' Loose
82. (87) Barnbrack - Belfast
83. (53) Junior - Do You Really (Want My Love)?
84. (72) Roland Rat Superstar! - No 1 Rat Fan
85. (86) Joan Armatrading - Temptation
86. (81) Monochrome Set - Jacob's Ladder
87. (100) REO Speedwagon - Can't Fight This Feeling
88. (79) Maze Featuring Frankie Beverly - Back In Stride
89. (New) The Ramones - Howling At The Moon/Chasing The Night[
90. (New) Mary Jane Girls - In My House
91. (76) Julian Cope - Sunspots
92. (92) Stevie Wonder - I Just Called To Say I Love You
93. (98 I Level - In The Sand
94. (85) Willie Finlayson - On The Air Tonight
95. (80) Redds And The Boys - Movin' And Groovin'
96. (New) Space - Magic Fly {1985}
97. (New) Vision - Tears Idle Tears
98. (New) Jenny Burton - Bad Habits
99. (91) John Fogerty - The Old Man Down The Road
100. (New) Working Week - Inner City Blues


Summary

18 new entries
32 Up
49 Down
1 Non Mover

Longest running song in the chart is "Relax" by Frankie Goes To Hollywood - 57 weeks.
Last edited by Rich Tea on 9 February 2018 12:00am

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