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NG
noggin Founding member
Still in the topic of German TV news, SRF cancelled its edition of 10 vor 10 (SRF's late night news) last week due to a server crash, instead airing a repeat of Tagesschau which was aired earlier in the evening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I7MZNa__g4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yvQe-jF_Sg


That's pretty bad. To preempt one show but two days in a row? Any word on what type of server went kaput? It looks like they were able get on air, with a simple choma key (or is that screen), and have the ability to playout an earlier episode (unless* the network played it out again).

*Maybe I got it wrong but wasn't mentioned that they set up an affiliate style system? If so they count retransmits while the others are local.

These two news articles that I found are saying that the cancellation was because of a "fault in the video interface".

https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/kultur/fernsehen/10-vor-10-faellt-wegen-technischer-probleme-aus/story/30529863
https://www.aargauerzeitung.ch/panorama/vermischtes/10-vor-10-wegen-technischer-probleme-ausgefallen-131600019


That sounds like a Google Translate translation. If you read technical German I think the issue is the video editing or vision cutting system.

Quote:
"«10 vor 10» sei wegen einer Störung am Video-Schnittsystem ausgefallen. «Daraus werden Beiträge in die Sendung eingespielt. Das war leider nicht möglich», heisst es auf Twitter."


My rough schoolboy German translates that as there was a problem with the video editing - or possibly video cutting (could be automated vision mixing) - which meant that recorded content couldn't be played out?
GL
globaltraffic24
The arrangement is actually - bizarrely - a legacy of Nazi Germany! Post-war, the Allies were adamant that Germany would have one of the most federalised structures in the world. The aim? To avoid the country feeling like 'one nation' which could see a return to far-right nationalism.


The postwar public broadcasters also reflected the Allies' own radio traditions. For instance, the Americans, who favored local broadcasting, helped to set up (or maintain) smaller stations throughout the American Zone: Munich, Berlin, the northern city of Bremen, Stuttgart, and Frankfurt. The British, however, looked to the national BBC for inspiration, and set up a single large broadcaster for their zone: NWDR. (It wasn't until 1955 that NWDR was split into WDR and NDR, both of which are still above average in terms of the population they serve.)

For reference, here is a map of the Occupation Zones:

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Wikipedia

The West German government eventually built up its confidence and pushed for a national public broadcaster, arguing that all other European nations had one, but it created huge political tensions, both internally and with other world powers. The German states run by SPD (Labour) parties took the Tory-led government to court to ban the new channel, and won.


"Tory-led"? Surely you meant conservative-led! (Only Commonwealth countries have Tories.)

As far as I know, FFG would have been a commercial venture, even though it was proposed by Adenauer. Its newscast would have been called Weltschau and would have aired at 7:30 p.m. FFG even signed a film-sharing agreement with CBS. Interestingly, the broadcaster also planned a morning show -- more that three decades before ARD and ZDF launched theirs! It would have been Europe's first.

Some more details from German-language Wikipedia: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freies_Fernsehen_Gesellschaft


That was me attempting to 'Britify' it! Technically, it was the Christian Democrats, rather than Conservatives or Tories, but you get what I mean!
HA
Hazimworks
Some Spanish news from 1998:

Primeiro Impacto Televisa:


Noticiero Univision (the audio is very poor):
NY
NYTV
Some Spanish news from 1998:

Primeiro Impacto Televisa:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvPMRdamMmI

Noticiero Univision (the audio is very poor):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-E7sh4nL8M

"Primer Impacto" is actually a Univision show. Televisa had an unfortunate habit of slapping a copyright notice to shows that weren't theirs. That video showed the syndicated version of "Primer Impacto Extra" without the Univision logo. Also, the "Primeiro Impacto" name is from the Brazilian TV station SBT, who actually is leasing the name out from Univision
WW
WW Update
There are a number of joint ARD-ZDF ventures: 3sat, KI.KA (children's) and Phoenix (politics and documentaries). ARD and ZDF also collaborate with France Télévisions in the production of Franco-German cultural channel Arte.


Speaking of KI.KA, here's Logo!, their newscast for kids, produced in ZDF's news studio:



Also in Germany, BR's Rundschau got a new virtual set last week; it's virtually (pun intended!) identical to the previous physical set, but it offers more flexibility because the background can now change during the news:



This two-minute promo shows the new virtual set in action:

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MO
Mouseboy33
CityNews - CITY-TV Toronto finally got a graphics update to match its website design. Seems like its been 10 years since their last major update. While the design is not objectionable. It is a little plain. But it fits with their innovate styled news broadcast they perfected in the last couple of years. I can only call it a dispersed anchored newscast. There is one presenter in the newsroom but the majority of the broadcast is seemingly presented from the field. Its seems like every report is presented live from the scene but the usual toss to the field report is non-existant. There minimal use of music in the newscast. And they they have retained the Everywhere! tagline and they use the "city is our newsroom" as their subtag line. Its been used for years but now it certainly makes more sense. As the broadcast is most presented live from the streets of Toronto. CityNews is again an innovator in the broadcast news business. Its different, but certainly a quieter affair from its DNA of being loud brash and urbane styled newscast. Worth a watch.

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JA
JAS84
There are a number of joint ARD-ZDF ventures: 3sat, KI.KA (children's) and Phoenix (politics and documentaries). ARD and ZDF also collaborate with France Télévisions in the production of Franco-German cultural channel Arte.


Speaking of KI.KA, here's Logo!, their newscast for kids, produced in ZDF's news studio:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm7fJUHVvQI

A German version of Newsround, eh? Do any other countries do something similar?
NG
noggin Founding member
JAS84 posted:
There are a number of joint ARD-ZDF ventures: 3sat, KI.KA (children's) and Phoenix (politics and documentaries). ARD and ZDF also collaborate with France Télévisions in the production of Franco-German cultural channel Arte.


Speaking of KI.KA, here's Logo!, their newscast for kids, produced in ZDF's news studio:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm7fJUHVvQI

A German version of Newsround, eh? Do any other countries do something similar?


Yes. Sweden has Lilla Aktuellt. https://www.svt.se/barnkanalen/barnplay/lilla-aktuellt

It broadcasts from the main SVT Nyheter news studio - where their main bulletins like Rapport, and I think Aktuellt, come from.
WH
whoiam989
Beginning on 15 August, TVB in Hong Kong will turn its J5 channel into a business news channel (the channel's Chinese name will also change), which the company advertises as the first and only free-to-air business channel in Hong Kong. I wonder what will happen to the Putonghua (Mandarin) news bulletin (which moved from TVB Pearl to J5 last year), though.

On the same day, TVB iNews on DTT will also be replaced. But I wonder if the change will also affect the TVB News channel available on Now TV and broadcast outside Hong Kong. Will the interactive TV feature on DTT iNews remain even after the change?
(I noticed that TVB iNews was on MyTV Super OTT television which replaced TVB's now defunct satellite TV service, TVB Network Vision, but not the TVB News channel. So I thought there would be something.)


Anyway, here are promos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5trWXWohifs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaC_Js9oZYQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9rVoYl8D-E

And here's how did the change occured today on TVB's DTT channels 83 and 85.

Arrow DTT 83 (formerly TVB iNews)


Arrow DTT 85 (formerly J5)


I don't know what happened to the TVB News Channel on PCCW's Now TV IPTV service, though. (Yeah, I know iNews was largely a simulcast of TVB News Channel with minor variation, but still...)
MQ
Mr Q
JAS84 posted:

Speaking of KI.KA, here's Logo!, their newscast for kids, produced in ZDF's news studio:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm7fJUHVvQI

A German version of Newsround, eh? Do any other countries do something similar?


Yes. Sweden has Lilla Aktuellt. https://www.svt.se/barnkanalen/barnplay/lilla-aktuellt

It broadcasts from the main SVT Nyheter news studio - where their main bulletins like Rapport, and I think Aktuellt, come from.

Denmark's DR has "Ultra Nyt", also from the main studio for TV Avisen.


I think TV 2 has also done a kids/schools news service - though I don't know if they still do.
NG
noggin Founding member
Mr Q posted:
JAS84 posted:
German version of Newsround, eh? Do any other countries do something similar?


Yes. Sweden has Lilla Aktuellt. https://www.svt.se/barnkanalen/barnplay/lilla-aktuellt

It broadcasts from the main SVT Nyheter news studio - where their main bulletins like Rapport, and I think Aktuellt, come from.

Denmark's DR has "Ultra Nyt", also from the main studio for TV Avisen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiEgHzxDyRE

I think TV 2 has also done a kids/schools news service - though I don't know if they still do.


Basically - if the BBC do something, you can pretty much guarantee that NRK, SVT and/or DR will do something similar - and probably ARD/ZDF too. The public service sensibilities of British, Scandinavian and German broadcasters are pretty close.

(SVT even use very similar page numbers to CEEFAX on their teletext service)
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BB
BBI45
Mr Q posted:

Yes. Sweden has Lilla Aktuellt. https://www.svt.se/barnkanalen/barnplay/lilla-aktuellt

It broadcasts from the main SVT Nyheter news studio - where their main bulletins like Rapport, and I think Aktuellt, come from.

Denmark's DR has "Ultra Nyt", also from the main studio for TV Avisen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiEgHzxDyRE

I think TV 2 has also done a kids/schools news service - though I don't know if they still do.


Basically - if the BBC do something, you can pretty much guarantee that NRK, SVT and/or DR will do something similar - and probably ARD/ZDF too. The public service sensibilities of British, Scandinavian and German broadcasters are pretty close.

(SVT even use very similar page numbers to CEEFAX on their teletext service)

NRK has 'Supernytt', named after the channel 'NRK Super'. Just adding it to the list.

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