The Newsroom

Sky News presentation - New studio onwards

(October 2016)

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JO
Jon
Literally no-one who doesn't post on TVF is going to have that reaction. Since we have a global audience of around a quarter-of-a-billion who aren't going anywhere, I suspect we'll be alright without you if it offends you that much.


Is there anything to back that figure up? Is that per year?

As far as I can see, ratings for Sky News have slowly been declining for a while. Sunrise in particular has suffered badly from Eamonn Holmes leaving.

Global weekly reach. Let's not get sidetracked from the point that somebody is regarding a subtle change in lighting as a personal insult and using "sustainable" and "accustomed" completely inappropriately.

It now is the point, how is that figured I'm intrigued.
CH
Charles
Jon posted:

Is there anything to back that figure up? Is that per year?

As far as I can see, ratings for Sky News have slowly been declining for a while. Sunrise in particular has suffered badly from Eamonn Holmes leaving.

Global weekly reach. Let's not get sidetracked from the point that somebody is regarding a subtle change in lighting as a personal insult and using "sustainable" and "accustomed" completely inappropriately.

It now is the point, how is that figured I'm intrigued.


I would believe it. AJE, BBC World, CNN, TV5, France 24, DW-TV et al. all cite high 200+ million viewers, though that figure is usually based on households with carriage of said channel. Do 200 million people watch Sky News worldwide everyday, or any other news channel available worldwide? God no. Just because a channel is "available in 200 million homes" does not mean that 200 million people watch it at any given time. But availability is the best metric for reach. Ratings methodology varies too much from country to country or is unavailable in many places, so there's no reliable way to really calculate worldwide ratings, i.e. how many people actually watch Sky News (or any channel) at any given time all across the world.
SK
Skygeek
Jon posted:

Is there anything to back that figure up? Is that per year?

As far as I can see, ratings for Sky News have slowly been declining for a while. Sunrise in particular has suffered badly from Eamonn Holmes leaving.

Global weekly reach. Let's not get sidetracked from the point that somebody is regarding a subtle change in lighting as a personal insult and using "sustainable" and "accustomed" completely inappropriately.

It now is the point, how is that figured I'm intrigued.

On the TV front, those who consume the channel's TV content for at least either 10 or 15 minutes (I honestly forget which, but either way, it's that sort of thumbnail), plus those who consume the digital/mobile content, etc.


Bottom line: Do I buy that a relatively modest 3.5% of the world's population engage with Sky News content on a weekly basis? Yes, I very much do.
Last edited by Skygeek on 11 July 2017 11:45pm
SK
skyviewer
Literally no-one who doesn't post on TVF is going to have that reaction. Since we have a global audience of around a quarter-of-a-billion who aren't going anywhere, I suspect we'll be alright without you if it offends you that much.



Global weekly reach. Let's not get sidetracked from the point that somebody is regarding a subtle change in lighting as a personal insult and using "sustainable" and "accustomed" completely inappropriately.

I am sorry that I am not a native speaker ( I am one of those "quarter-of-a-billion" international viewers) and that I do not have the ability to use every word completely appropriately. As this is a presentation forum, I tried to express that I prefer the blue lighting and I don´t like that it has been changed to white again. Now you said I am regarding the change of lighting as a personal insult. This is what I would consider as completely inappropriately.
SK
Skygeek
Literally no-one who doesn't post on TVF is going to have that reaction. Since we have a global audience of around a quarter-of-a-billion who aren't going anywhere, I suspect we'll be alright without you if it offends you that much.



Global weekly reach. Let's not get sidetracked from the point that somebody is regarding a subtle change in lighting as a personal insult and using "sustainable" and "accustomed" completely inappropriately.

I am sorry that I am not a native speaker ( I am one of those "quarter-of-a-billion" international viewers) and that I do not have the ability to use every word completely appropriately. As this is a presentation forum, I tried to express that I prefer the blue lighting and I don´t like that it has been changed to white again. Now you said I am regarding the change of lighting as a personal insult. This is what I would consider as completely inappropriately.

Then I would politely urge you to think carefully about your use of adjectives before posting. You may not have intended it as such, but your post came across as though lighting were somehow a "moral issue", and as such, it looked a bit "hair-on-fire".
IN
Independent
The quarter of a billion grew slightly larger (a few million) when Sky finally entered the Canadian market in June. Mostly in predominantly French-speaking Quebec though. It was available through the now defunct Livestation app and site. Unfortunately it's geo-blocked on YouTube.
http://blog.fagstein.com/2017/06/08/mnd-radio-ratings-dutrizac-replaced-qcna-awards/
The need for Sky was demonstrated during Grenfell. BBC World News decided at some point during the disaster everyone wanted an inordinate amount of time for more Donald Trump allegations and speculation. If we wanted more than five or so minutes of that we could have gone to CNN for that where it's the only thing they cover.
JO
Jon
Bottom line: Do I buy that a relatively modest 3.5% of the world's population engage with Sky News content on a weekly basis? Yes, I very much do.

I don't believe that for one moment. I could believe a small bit more than 3.5% of the UK population consume Sky News content on a weakly basis, but not that much more.
DA
Dave Founding member
I know its early so my maths may be way out... not had a cuppa tea yet too but...

3.5% of 7.5 billion = 262,500,000 people

http://www.skynewsinternational.com/advertise

Quote:
Sky News reaches over 102 million homes worldwide across 127 different countries. Sky News has a highly affluent and upmarket audience across multiple platforms and programme genres.


Putting the best spin on data Sky News themselves only come up with 102 million people - about 1.4% of the worlds population.
SK
Skygeek
Dave posted:
I know its early so my maths may be way out... not had a cuppa tea yet too but...

3.5% of 7.5 billion = 262,500,000 people

http://www.skynewsinternational.com/advertise

Quote:
Sky News reaches over 102 million homes worldwide across 127 different countries. Sky News has a highly affluent and upmarket audience across multiple platforms and programme genres.


Putting the best spin on data Sky News themselves only come up with 102 million people - about 1.4% of the worlds population.

The metric you're citing is homes; the metric I'm citing is people. Usually, more than one person over the age of 16 lives in a household, ergo my assertion is not that far out.
DE
derek500
Jon posted:
Bottom line: Do I buy that a relatively modest 3.5% of the world's population engage with Sky News content on a weekly basis? Yes, I very much do.

I don't believe that for one moment. I could believe a small bit more than 3.5% of the UK population consume Sky News content on a weakly basis, but not that much more.


Not weakly figures at all! From the latest Ofcom news consumption report published last month (figures for 2016).

Q. Thinking specifically about television, which of the following do you use for news nowadays?

Sky News 21%.
DA
Dave Founding member
Dave posted:
I know its early so my maths may be way out... not had a cuppa tea yet too but...

3.5% of 7.5 billion = 262,500,000 people

http://www.skynewsinternational.com/advertise

Quote:
Sky News reaches over 102 million homes worldwide across 127 different countries. Sky News has a highly affluent and upmarket audience across multiple platforms and programme genres.


Putting the best spin on data Sky News themselves only come up with 102 million people - about 1.4% of the worlds population.

The metric you're citing is homes; the metric I'm citing is people. Usually, more than one person over the age of 16 lives in a household, ergo my assertion is not that far out.


You would think Sky would use the assertion as a basis to sell advertising space to twice as many people, but they don't... wonder why?
SK
Skygeek
Dave posted:
Dave posted:
I know its early so my maths may be way out... not had a cuppa tea yet too but...

3.5% of 7.5 billion = 262,500,000 people

http://www.skynewsinternational.com/advertise


Putting the best spin on data Sky News themselves only come up with 102 million people - about 1.4% of the worlds population.

The metric you're citing is homes; the metric I'm citing is people. Usually, more than one person over the age of 16 lives in a household, ergo my assertion is not that far out.


You would think Sky would use the assertion as a basis to sell advertising space to twice as many people, but they don't... wonder why?

Why? Because - given there are different numbers of people in each household, they can't make educated guesses in official literature, which is what I'm doing in this informal conversation with weapons-grade pedants.
Last edited by Skygeek on 12 July 2017 9:07am

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