BA
I actually don't understand why BBC Breakfast, BBC News, The one show and other BBC One programmes are so popular, they are all boring - ITV all they way for me
It is engrained in the BBC public that they watch news at teatime, if ITV had a bulletin at 8pm everyone would just watch the Six and then not want to watch a bulletin two hours later.
I actually don't understand why BBC Breakfast, BBC News, The one show and other BBC One programmes are so popular, they are all boring - ITV all they way for me
WH
Everyone? The whole country? No point in ITV doing news at all then?
Surely if ITV is 2nd place in news, moving a main news programme to a slot that doesn't compete with the other side is the best chance you can give yourself to make an in-road.
Eventually, one of the main ITV news programmes will fade away - I say it's best for the remaining programme to be in a prime slot that assists the remaining schedule and doesn't clash with the Beeb.
Whataday
Founding member
It is engrained in the BBC public that they watch news at teatime, if ITV had a bulletin at 8pm everyone would just watch the Six and then not want to watch a bulletin two hours later.
Everyone? The whole country? No point in ITV doing news at all then?
Surely if ITV is 2nd place in news, moving a main news programme to a slot that doesn't compete with the other side is the best chance you can give yourself to make an in-road.
Eventually, one of the main ITV news programmes will fade away - I say it's best for the remaining programme to be in a prime slot that assists the remaining schedule and doesn't clash with the Beeb.
NL
Everyone? The whole country? No point in ITV doing news at all then?
Surely if ITV is 2nd place in news, moving a main news programme to a slot that doesn't compete with the other side is the best chance you can give yourself to make an in-road.
Eventually, one of the main ITV news programmes will fade away - I say it's best for the remaining programme to be in a prime slot that assists the remaining schedule and doesn't clash with the Beeb.
That leaves 8PM. Would that be viable? I mean would viewers actually settle down at primetime to watch news on ITV? Mind you having said that it would help with the drama quota and films not being cut in half:
A possible schedule could be:
6.00 Local Programmes
7.00 Soaps
8.00 ITV Network News
8.30 Documentary?
9.00 Movie or 2 hour drama
11.00 ITN Late News
It is engrained in the BBC public that they watch news at teatime, if ITV had a bulletin at 8pm everyone would just watch the Six and then not want to watch a bulletin two hours later.
Everyone? The whole country? No point in ITV doing news at all then?
Surely if ITV is 2nd place in news, moving a main news programme to a slot that doesn't compete with the other side is the best chance you can give yourself to make an in-road.
Eventually, one of the main ITV news programmes will fade away - I say it's best for the remaining programme to be in a prime slot that assists the remaining schedule and doesn't clash with the Beeb.
That leaves 8PM. Would that be viable? I mean would viewers actually settle down at primetime to watch news on ITV? Mind you having said that it would help with the drama quota and films not being cut in half:
A possible schedule could be:
6.00 Local Programmes
7.00 Soaps
8.00 ITV Network News
8.30 Documentary?
9.00 Movie or 2 hour drama
11.00 ITN Late News
:-(
A former member
No, no, no.... there been here dont that and it was the biggest waste of time for ITV in years.
BR
It's been great having The Last Leg on every night during the Paralympics though and surprisingly it's actually worked quite nicely pre-watershed. Obviously it is a different beast to a late night chat show and this time around has a specific focus, but I think as long as a show doesn't try and overstretch itself and finds it's own identity it has a real chance. Obviously guest presenters make that a bit trickier but really do think it is the right way to do it - effectively a number of pilots where hopefully you'd get a natural contender for the full time role emerge.
However a show likes this needs to be allowed a change to grow and develop, and also to let it's audience find it. Putting it at 10pm before it's even ready would be the worst thing they could do for it and almost certainly doom it to failure. Let it develop at 10.40pm outside of primetime and it might just work - not out of the gates but overtime I'm sure it would.
However a show likes this needs to be allowed a change to grow and develop, and also to let it's audience find it. Putting it at 10pm before it's even ready would be the worst thing they could do for it and almost certainly doom it to failure. Let it develop at 10.40pm outside of primetime and it might just work - not out of the gates but overtime I'm sure it would.
ST
Nobody said it was 'engrained'.
As a result of decisions made by the main broadcasters, we have major programmes at 6pm (BBC), 7pm (C4), and 10pm (ITV/BBC).
These have changed over the years and are not fixed, but it's only ITV that seems to see it as a 'moveable feast'.
It is engrained in the BBC public that they watch news at teatime, if ITV had a bulletin at 8pm everyone would just watch the Six and then not want to watch a bulletin two hours later.
Nobody said it was 'engrained'.
As a result of decisions made by the main broadcasters, we have major programmes at 6pm (BBC), 7pm (C4), and 10pm (ITV/BBC).
These have changed over the years and are not fixed, but it's only ITV that seems to see it as a 'moveable feast'.
SE
And what would they show at 9pm ? They'd have to find something post watershed for 30 minutes. It would mean they couldn't run dramas at 9pm. It would be commercial suicide.
Square Eyes
Founding member
Fair point. Maybe then 9.30?
And what would they show at 9pm ? They'd have to find something post watershed for 30 minutes. It would mean they couldn't run dramas at 9pm. It would be commercial suicide.
AE
Britain copies too much from America. Can't we just have a new ORIGINAL idea from ITV? I mean I don't mind them being inspired by imports, but this? This is too much.
IS
How do you differentiate between copying from a foreign programme and being inspired by a foreign programme (which this is)?
How much is 'too much'?
Original ideas are hard to come by these days, that's just the way it is. Putting a chat show in that slot 5 days a week is certainly something that's not been done here
Britain copies too much from America. Can't we just have a new ORIGINAL idea from ITV? I mean I don't mind them being inspired by imports, but this? This is too much.
How do you differentiate between copying from a foreign programme and being inspired by a foreign programme (which this is)?
How much is 'too much'?
Original ideas are hard to come by these days, that's just the way it is. Putting a chat show in that slot 5 days a week is certainly something that's not been done here
BA
Good Morning Britain
Jeremy Kyle
Loose Women
Judge Rinder
All inspired by American shows such as
Good Morning America
Maury Show
The View
Judge Judy
Britain copies too much from America. Can't we just have a new ORIGINAL idea from ITV? I mean I don't mind them being inspired by imports, but this? This is too much.
Good Morning Britain
Jeremy Kyle
Loose Women
Judge Rinder
All inspired by American shows such as
Good Morning America
Maury Show
The View
Judge Judy