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JKDerry161 posts since 15 Oct 2016
UTV Newsline
Gottago - I was thinking the "work" they do compared to any other job, which is the theme going around now today. Three weeks in the jungle, looked after and living in the lap pf luxury whilst hosting a few trials and live shows, not too bad, compared to an overworked nurse trying to earn a living on a 50 hour week in many cases.
bilky asko4,623 posts since 9 Sep 2006
Tyne Tees Look North (North East)
The BBC have missed a trick with this announcement, they should have quantified the number of contracts each individual is employed for

Vine for example has three clear strands - R2, Elections and Eggheads
Mayo - R2 and 5L Wittertainment

The casual observer not being made aware of these multiple roles.


Would Eggheads be included? Isn't it made by an indie? Bit like Dimbleby not being on the list, who earns a reported £15K a show for Question Time. He'd be right up there.


It was claimed Eggheads was included on his Radio 2 show yesterday.
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Andrew12,022 posts since 27 Mar 2001
Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Don't read the Daily Mail today then, they've got about 20 different stories on the go.

Most ridiculous is this one
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4711902/BBC-drafts-Clive-Myrie-present-News-Six.html
They obviously haven't noticed that Clive has been on all week and Huw has been on holiday for about 3 weeks, so nobody was "drafted in".

Ant and Dec - 30m over 3 years, that's about 5m a year. The BBC don't really have a big entertainment star at the moment, the closest is Graham Norton and of course what he earns is not included, so we don't know how big the BBC to commercial gap would be. Not relevant though as ITV are a commercial company and can use their money however they like.

Yesterday's news is a very minor discomfort compared to what positives they receive being the national broadcaster with no adverts, no commercial pressures etc.
gottago2,457 posts since 26 Aug 2004
London London
Imagine the uproar if Ant and Dec were still at the BBC. Currently on ITV they have raked in close to £30 million over the course of 2/3 years. And for what? Seven weeks of their Saturday Night Takeaway, 8 weeks at most hosting Britain's Got Talent, and three weeks "work" as host of I'm A Celebrity. £30 million for that!.

Not sure by what you mean by "work". I'm a Celeb would probably be the toughest gig of the three.
Hatton Cross2,286 posts since 4 Jan 2003
Central (West) Midlands Today
Am I correct in thinking that Channel 4 are Primary rights holders for this and Eurosport are Secondary, or is it vice-versa?

Given Eurosport have been showing all group games live so far (including England V Scotland with no UK blackout) I'd say Eurosport are primary holders and 4 are the junior.
ITV "Occasionally it gives us something good, but for the most part, it is pathetic and puerile". Lord Taylor, House Of Commons, 1959.
JKDerry161 posts since 15 Oct 2016
UTV Newsline
Imagine the uproar if Ant and Dec were still at the BBC. Currently on ITV they have raked in close to £30 million over the course of 2/3 years. And for what? Seven weeks of their Saturday Night Takeaway, 8 weeks at most hosting Britain's Got Talent, and three weeks "work" as host of I'm A Celebrity. £30 million for that!.

ITV salaries of course are not care about, especially by the Daily Mail. Even though ITV is a public service broadcaster too, just not funded by a licence fee. ITV are willing to pay multi-millions to the likes of Ant and Dec, Simon Cowell etc, and then cut as much from the budgets of local news as they can. Never hear any outrage at this from the Daily Mail or the right wing BBC bashers.

Yes, the BBC salaries are huge, but compare them to their competitors, they are a pittance. We need to step back and see, that these salaries are only a drop in the ocean, compared to the overall £5 Billion a year budget the BBC has.
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derek500584 posts since 10 Dec 2003
Westcountry Points West
The BBC have missed a trick with this announcement, they should have quantified the number of contracts each individual is employed for

Vine for example has three clear strands - R2, Elections and Eggheads
Mayo - R2 and 5L Wittertainment

The casual observer not being made aware of these multiple roles.


Would Eggheads be included? Isn't it made by an indie? Bit like Dimbleby not being on the list, who earns a reported £15K a show for Question Time. He'd be right up there.
Rkolsen1,378 posts since 20 Jan 2014
BBC World
Clare Balding's salary doesn't make sense. She is perhaps the most high profile female BBC presenter and even though there is no racing on BBC anymore she works consistently across television and radio, covering entertainment and sport.



I'm not in the U.K. but I'm amazed at the scope of her coverage.

She's always willing to lend a hand.
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Araminta Kane21 posts since 8 Dec 2015
Interesting - certainly in the early colour era Yorkshire used to do everything at Thirsk, Catterick etc. and sometimes even Redcar, the now-defunct Stockton/Teesside Park and Sedgefield, because Tyne Tees' resources were so limited and they couldn't do both racing and football at the same time. By the last years of World of Sport, though, Tyne Tees directors were increasingly credited for North Yorkshire venues; there's one billed for Catterick on 27th November 1982 and one at Thirsk on the last original ITV Seven on 7th September 1985 (the last three WoS programmes had coverage from one course only). Racing coverage from Taunton in 1968 was provided by ABC; coverage from Devon & Exeter (as it was called at the time) in 1970 by ATV. A 1985 party conference at Torquay was covered by TVS; one the same year at Dundee by a collaboration of Grampian & Granada.

By sheer coincidence, the loss of ITV's racing coverage from Thirsk (to, as he puts it, "an internal ITV dispute") on 16th April 1983 is actually mentioned in a Chris Dunkley Financial Times piece I just happened to chance upon, where he talks about how the old class distinctions, so strong in the 1950s and early 1960s, had in many ways merged with the BBC's embrace of light-ent and ITV's embrace of public service values, but were still strong in terms of the split between Grandstand and World of Sport. Does anyone want me to post the whole thing?

Was there a distant echo, perhaps, of the old ITV/BBC North/South thing* in ITV dropping the two Salisbury fixtures from which Channel 4 had shown one or two races in May (in programmes dominated by the 1,000 Guineas and the York May meeting) for some years? Although when that was a lot stronger, the only Salisbury coverage on TV was the old Guineas trial fixture for which Southern & TVS would do the technical side for WoS, and Southern were covering Salisbury as early as 1959; as with York, the only Salisbury coverage ever shown on the BBC was when Ascot was closed in the mid-2000s and some fixtures were moved there.

*In the summer of 1978 the Times expressed surprise that BBC2 rather than ITV was covering brass band music, presumably because ITV's share was higher in the North, and that does seem rather patronising and long-distance, as if nobody in the North ever listened to anything else. I know that "Floral Dance" and "Matchstalk Men" had just been huge and Callaghan was widely expected to win the election then assumed to be held in the autumn, but ITV's popularity with the Northern working class was precisely because it reflected where they were going, which was already a long way from brass band music, and not where they had been. Does have a whiff of "Hello Up There" about it. And in fact Granada & Yorkshire did do brass band programmes anyway; Granada's 'Band of the Year' contest was even networked and I have the ad break from Thames' transmission of the 1982 version, which has one of those "ready for the new channels when they come" TV spots, incongruously for a Pye set.
Bob Paisley413 posts since 9 Aug 2005
London London
Blimey, that was a blast from the past. I'd forgotten so much about all this. I'd completely forgotten ITN had launched a digital radio version of the News Channel.

Sadly, it all ended in tears. ITN had missed the boat really when it came to 24-hour news and the whole thing was a great folly really. But a really interesting watch nonetheless.
cityprod1,317 posts since 3 Oct 2005
Westcountry Spotlight

Most of the Discovery Channels' new material is made in the US, not the UK. Most other channels are exactly the same, mostly repeats, and what new stuff there is made in the US. Sky 1 and Sky Living are about the only channels that do do new stuff that is UK produced. Yes, they do a lot of new imports too, but they have a feeling of being stronger than most other channels. Even Discovery's channels pretty much don't feel like they're on a different level from channels like Dave, or even the CBS channels.

Er what has UK versus UK content got to do with it? They can still be popular and strong offerings even though they're mostly American. Factual is an area that is lacking outside of pay TV and the big 5


Personally the documentaries section is the one genre I miss since I left pay TV and went Freeview and the fuss created when Discovery threatened to leave Sky last year shows I'm not alone


For me its an important thing, the whole UK vs Imports thing. I would want to encourage more new production in this country. Sadly, about 80% of the material shown on the multi-channels are repeats, with the vast majority of new or first run material, being imports, mainly from the US, but also from Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Most of the new material produced here airs on BBC, ITV, Channel 4 or Channel 5 and their various associated channels. Most of Sky's first run output is either on Sky News or Sky Sports, with Sky 1 doing the most new commissions out of the multi-channels.