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Markymark6,042 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today
I wondered if Sandringham area was actually in the Belmont region? As nearby Hunstanton is isn't it?

Appreciate an overlap but assumed YTV must still cover it? At least on terrestrial


The strongest signal in that area is provided by Belmont. This is where the story of the three North Norfolk
BBC 1 and Anglia only relays emerges. One of the side effects of Belmont being reallocated to YTV in 1974, was north Norfolk suddenly were in the wrong ITV region. There were protests from viewers, backed by Anglia
and as a result, and as part of Anglia's new franchise agreement in 1982, three relays were built to provide
BBC 1 East and Anglia to these areas. BBC 2 and C4 were not carried, so viewers had to retain two aerials.
The Kings Lynn relay covers Sandringham.
There's a story the HM had also applied pressure to get 'East Region' news, dunno how true that is.

Since DSO the relays carry all three PSB muxes, so they are 'Freeview Lite' status.

I don't think there is any requirement for 'YTV' to cover the area, any more than Granada need to cover North Wales for example, but I suspect with the usual 'region stretching' on big stores they covered yesteday's accident ?

Belmont BBC 1 was in the 'North Region' since in opened in 1966. Of course 66-68 it carried regional programmes from Manchester Cool

FWIW http://tx.mb21.co.uk/features/belmont/index.shtml
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mr_vivian786 posts since 11 Oct 2015
UTV Newsline
It's also a Friday. I do wonder, actually, how the occasion is going to be marked - in TV terms that is; is it going to be all live feeds of Big Ben for example as the clock ticks to 11pm? Or will it just, you know, happen?


I reckon there will be a camera pointing to Big Ben and then it will pan out with lots of Brexiteers cheering.

But the bigger question is will it actually happen? But that's for another forum.
Inspector Sands12,873 posts since 25 Aug 2004

I was thinking watching those that you can't really imagine even the balloon being used in a situation like that. It genuinely makes me wonder what they would have done if it had happened two months later. Run the balloon idents but silent? As you can see BBC2 using 'Silk' muted into the funeral.

A good question, as I mentioned above, there was a new logo'vs equivalent of the BBC 'family' branding seen that day, but once the networks had split back up again it wouldn't have been used for BBC One. There were more serious balloon idents, but the colours used were hardly sombre


Of course the next royal obit they had the opposite problem, that was a few days after the new BBC One branding came in and by then the plan was not to join the networks together as the 'family' (presumably because News 24 existed and that made things a lot easier) so they used stills of their idents, in BBC Ones case the ballet dancers
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Inspector Sands12,873 posts since 25 Aug 2004

The BBC family ident, which was the DVD/Video ident of the time (ribbons is how Martin Lambie-Nairn referred to it), was produced for BBC Worldwide media like DVDs and VHS releases, but was used for this purpose albeit in stills and for royal/OBIT use.

I think that's the wrong way round.


The ribbons logo was for uses where it was representing the corporation as a whole and not just one service, brand or department. It was used on the flags outside buildings like TV Centre, as the desktop wallpaper on the BBCs PCs, and as the design for the staff ID cards amongst other uses

It was also used by presentation as the 'family symbol' - the presentation elements used when/if they bring the BBC 'family' of channels together. The previous 'family' symbol was of course used on the day of Diana's death

Just because the only place most people saw it was on the front of a VHS (or later, DVD) release doesn't mean that's what it was primarily created for. Although the version with that particular animation and music probably was unique to that use (the one pres had ready was animated, but didn't form up like the VHS ident)
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Alex Plain-Later (previously Austin Tatious) 954 posts since 1 Jan 2016
HTV West Points West
A couple or so years ago, ITV News West Country ("west" version only, i.e. the former Westward/TSW/Westcountry region) did a feature marking the something anniversary of Gus Honeybun (the puppet rabbit that featured in the "birthdays" slot for many years, spanning both Westward and TSW eras).

Meanwhile, it was just a standard news day on the "east" (ex-HTV) version of the programme that same evening.

So, these sorts of things still being acknowledged clearly isn't something that is inherently ruled-out.
I is well eloquent, innit.
DVB Cornwall7,804 posts since 4 Dec 2003
Westcountry Spotlight
Back to the Football. Things could have been resolved much easier if Number 10 had given 10 more mins notice. The statement was flagged at 9pm. If it was known during Half time in the football, a decision could have been made to switch the second half to BBC TWO at 9pm clearing the BBC ONE service for a Ten News without possible hinderance. Once the second half had begun that was all but impossible without preempting an in progress programme. Hindsight is always valuable and maybe Number 10 will make these decisions sooner in the light of what happened on Tuesday.
Mike W4,807 posts since 30 Apr 2006
Linking to presentation, I may sound old to some, but there is something warming and comforting about the symbol BBC One symbol linking into the grand BBC News opening - I love them both. The symbol was so simple, not build up and hold, just always ready for an introduction into anything from news to comedy. The BBC News intro was grand and wonderfully orchestrated. Those were the days.

I was thinking watching those that you can't really imagine even the balloon being used in a situation like that. It genuinely makes me wonder what they would have done if it had happened two months later. Run the balloon idents but silent? As you can see BBC2 using 'Silk' muted into the funeral.

Am I imagining this, or didn't they have a sombre BBC ident during the Balloons era? I could have sworn it was a version of the BBC blocks on a navy blue background (similar to, if not the same as, the old BBC DVD ident)? I swear I've seen that somewhere. Or maybe I'm tired and have invented it in my own head.

The BBC family ident, which was the DVD/Video ident of the time (ribbons is how Martin Lambie-Nairn referred to it), was produced for BBC Worldwide media like DVDs and VHS releases, but was used for this purpose albeit in stills and for royal/OBIT use.
Oh it's such a perfect day, I'm glad I spent it with you...
DJGM2,663 posts since 4 Jan 2003
Granada North West Today
On the day Brexit is scheduled to actually happen (assuming no extension for Article 50 or any other obstacles), 29th March 2019, is exactly 17 years to the day of the last edition of The Big Breakfast, 29th March 2002 ... coincidence?

The BB could actually be brought back for a one-off late evening / primetime special from 10pm to midnight on the night, and broadcast from the (former) Big Breakfast House itself. Yes, I know it is very unlikely ... but it's not entirely impossible.
"The Not-So-Late-Show with Greg Mitchell" Tuesdays 4-6pm on Roch Valley Radio - rochvalleyradio.org.uk

(Until further notice!)