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harshy5,354 posts since 24 Mar 2001
It is it's a programme based on the sort of viewers that watch itv these days, desparate wannabes! Simon cowell knows that hence he galavants the carribean with his 17 ladies
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harshy5,354 posts since 24 Mar 2001
Well it's good itv produce downtown abbey but going back to 1992 and before the itv before and the itv now is two different things

The itv of then would have never produced X factor
62305818,292 posts since 19 Aug 2005
STV Central Reporting Scotland
Your so right, Thames, ~ATV/Central and LWT would have Razz New faces, opportunity knocks, search for a star. Daytime ITV was filled with OZ'a soaps.. I agree ITV lost its way, but to say ITV of the 80s and 90s would have never made it just rubbish
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harshy5,354 posts since 24 Mar 2001
Your so right, Thames, ~ATV/Central and LWT would have Razz New faces, opportunity knocks, search for a star. Daytime ITV was filled with OZ'a soaps.. I agree ITV lost its way, but to say ITV of the 80s and 90s would have never made it just rubbish


There was nothing wrong with the Young Doctors Laughing
Jon6,353 posts since 11 Apr 2005
Central (West) Midlands Today

The itv of then would have never produced X factor

Variations on the theme have existed for a long time and if X Factor in it's current form had existed then and it proved popular it would have existed. When you compare ITV to 5 or so years ago, there is some real quality television. Some really respected dramas, lots of documentary and a good commitment to news. Yes it has it's populist reality shows but so does every other commercial broadcaster in the world and BBC One. When you consider it exists to make money, it's doing that and it's PSB commitments quite well at the moment and should be commended.
dosxuk3,658 posts since 22 Oct 2005
Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Yes but they were better produced shows this show just produces awful talent with awful music across the radio waves as a result


Really? My memories of Opportunity Knocks are of a ropey, slow, often cringeworthy programme, with a threshold of "talent" being so low that even a dancing dog could win it.

Just because you don't like the X Factor, or it's contestants, you can say it was badly produced - as live television programmes go, it is one of the best produced shows around at the moment.

And as for the contestants, I've met lots of them, I've mixed sound for several of them, and you know what, they've actually got talent. An heck of a lot more than some of the local bands round here who continually moan about how much better they are than the awful contestants on the the X Factor. Yes, a lot of the songs are just pop tat to (hopefully) fill the Top 10 with, but go and seek out what former contestants have done before and after they were in the X Factor "bubble" and you might be pleasantly surprised.
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harshy5,354 posts since 24 Mar 2001
Agreed once they break out of the X factor bubble they become better artists it's just a Shame they have to go down the simon cowell route to do it but everyone deserves an opportunity I guess it's simon cowell I hate it has to be said
Jon6,353 posts since 11 Apr 2005
Central (West) Midlands Today
Yes but they were better produced shows this show just produces awful talent with awful music across the radio waves as a result


Really? My memories of Opportunity Knocks are of a ropey, slow, often cringeworthy programme, with a threshold of "talent" being so low that even a dancing dog could win it.

To be fair I think a dancing dog won Britain's Got Talent recently.


Agree with everything you've said though. I think someone is looking back at things with rose tinted spectacles.
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