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(June 2005)

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JA
jay Founding member
Andrew posted:
The studio the BBC have a Wimbledon is really nice don't you think, get's you in the summer mood seeing those nice green courts in the background
http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/wimbledon16b.jpg
Besides the desk, the studio is identical to what they used last year. I wonder if they leave it to gather dust all year or take it down and use the plasma screens and chairs elsewhere just to bring it all back about 48 weeks later!


I preferred last years clear see-through tennis ball table! looked alot nicer than that pile of boring-ness.
BR
Brekkie
Hatton Cross posted:
And talking of the multiscreen, does anyone else thing that a massive opportunity is being missed by BBC Sport during the mens/womens finals?

Instead of using the other 4 screens to show highlights or other 'filler' material, why not ape Sky Sports Active, and offer on Screen 1 the main unilateral feed, on 2 offer a side on view of the court, 3 the high-up back of the stand view, etc?



What's the point in that - the main feed gives the best angles. Though initially a selling point of Interactive TV was different camera angles, in reality they don't offer much - after all it's the directors job to get the best views!
NG
noggin Founding member
Hatton Cross posted:
And talking of the multiscreen, does anyone else thing that a massive opportunity is being missed by BBC Sport during the mens/womens finals?

Instead of using the other 4 screens to show highlights or other 'filler' material, why not ape Sky Sports Active, and offer on Screen 1 the main unilateral feed, on 2 offer a side on view of the court, 3 the high-up back of the stand view, etc?


I think you mean the Multilateral feed on screen 1 (i.e. the mixed feed) - a unilateral feed is one for a specific broadcaster.

Whilst player cams and permanent wideshots have benefits for team sports like football - the benefits on two player sports like tennis are far more marginal. Personally I'd rather chose my match from a choice of 5, rather than have 5 views of the same court.
AN
Andrew Founding member
jay posted:


I preferred last years clear see-through tennis ball table! looked alot nicer than that pile of boring-ness.

It is a bit of a dodgy table this time, the way its got a clear see through front showing nothing but the floor below looks a bit rubbish

http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/wimbledon24s1.jpg
John Inverdale with Tracey Austin and Pat Cash

Last year's desk from wimbledon.org
http://www.wimbledon.org/images/about/bbc1_aec.jpg

Anybody know about the studios other countries use, presumably they are no where near as big as the BBC's?
WI
william Founding member
noggin posted:
Hatton Cross posted:
And talking of the multiscreen, does anyone else thing that a massive opportunity is being missed by BBC Sport during the mens/womens finals?

Instead of using the other 4 screens to show highlights or other 'filler' material, why not ape Sky Sports Active, and offer on Screen 1 the main unilateral feed, on 2 offer a side on view of the court, 3 the high-up back of the stand view, etc?


I think you mean the Multilateral feed on screen 1 (i.e. the mixed feed) - a unilateral feed is one for a specific broadcaster.

Whilst player cams and permanent wideshots have benefits for team sports like football - the benefits on two player sports like tennis are far more marginal. Personally I'd rather chose my match from a choice of 5, rather than have 5 views of the same court.


Multiple camera angles has never really been a BBC 'thing'.

IMO unless you have a very specific reason for wanting to watch playercam, the stump camera/reverse angle at the cricket etc. you quickly tire of them (and the 1-2 second switching delays) and return to the proper gallery output.

Perhaps however the BBC missed a trick by not offering a choice of audio (ie. Five Live or no-commentary at all, as they've done for football). Given R5L's continuous coverage throughout the tournament I think that would have worked well. Maybe I'll suggest it ... (again)
AN
Andrew Founding member
william posted:

Perhaps however the BBC missed a trick by not offering a choice of audio (ie. Five Live or no-commentary at all, as they've done for football). Given R5L's continuous coverage throughout the tournament I think that would have worked well. Maybe I'll suggest it ... (again)

Not sure there would be any worth of having Five Live commentary, they always have better names on the TV coverage usually consisting of a long serving BBC commentator and a famous ex-player or variants of the above.
They did once have a 'mini-mac' commentary where some kids commentated on the final.

With so many matches going on, Doubles, Mixed Doubles, Boys and Girls, Veterans etc, it's best to offer another 4 matches
NG
noggin Founding member
Andrew posted:
jay posted:


I preferred last years clear see-through tennis ball table! looked alot nicer than that pile of boring-ness.

It is a bit of a dodgy table this time, the way its got a clear see through front showing nothing but the floor below looks a bit rubbish

http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/wimbledon24s1.jpg
John Inverdale with Tracey Austin and Pat Cash

Last year's desk from wimbledon.org
http://www.wimbledon.org/images/about/bbc1_aec.jpg

Anybody know about the studios other countries use, presumably they are no where near as big as the BBC's?


Actually seeing last year's and this year's next to each other I'm beginning to prefer this year's. Whilst the tennis ball table was a nice idea - I'm not a fan of shiny, reflective, Perspex tops, and the "W" base didn't really work for me.

I quite liked the use of Yellow perspex this year - the desk base and the foreground flat nodded nicely to each other.

This year's desk also had a bit more Wimbledon branding as well...
BB
BBC TV Centre
noggin posted:
Andrew posted:
jay posted:


I preferred last years clear see-through tennis ball table! looked alot nicer than that pile of boring-ness.

It is a bit of a dodgy table this time, the way its got a clear see through front showing nothing but the floor below looks a bit rubbish

http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/wimbledon24s1.jpg
John Inverdale with Tracey Austin and Pat Cash

Last year's desk from wimbledon.org
http://www.wimbledon.org/images/about/bbc1_aec.jpg

Anybody know about the studios other countries use, presumably they are no where near as big as the BBC's?


Actually seeing last year's and this year's next to each other I'm beginning to prefer this year's. Whilst the tennis ball table was a nice idea - I'm not a fan of shiny, reflective, Perspex tops, and the "W" base didn't really work for me.

I quite liked the use of Yellow perspex this year - the desk base and the foreground flat nodded nicely to each other.

This year's desk also had a bit more Wimbledon branding as well...


Perhaps they should have went for a compromise between the two - and filled in the top or the hollow inside of the yellow perspex table this year with tennis balls? Razz
NG
noggin Founding member
BBC TV Centre posted:
Perhaps they should have went for a compromise between the two - and filled in the top or the hollow inside of the yellow perspex table this year with tennis balls? Razz


Doesn't solve the reflection problem though...
MA
Magoo
Andrew posted:

Anybody know about the studios other countries use, presumably they are no where near as big as the BBC's?


The television studios are all located in the Broadcast Centre at Wimbledon with the BBC possessing the largest studio at the corner of the building. Other channels (Eurosport, Danish TV, Sky Italia, etc) have smaller studios looking out over the courts - possibly about 10x4 metres
JV
James Vertigan Founding member
While we're on the subject of the BBC's studios... whatever happened to the Sky box that Sue Barker had under one of the plasma screens a couple of years ago? Did Sky take it away for not being plugged into a phone line? Laughing
NG
noggin Founding member
James Vertigan posted:
While we're on the subject of the BBC's studios... whatever happened to the Sky box that Sue Barker had under one of the plasma screens a couple of years ago? Did Sky take it away for not being plugged into a phone line? Laughing


Doubt it - not all Sky boxes have to be plugged into the phone line - only those that are within their year long subsidy window, or are being used for a multiroom subscription have to be connected to the phone Wink

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