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CJ
Chris J
dafydd posted:
steveboswell posted:
That would make a great screensaver.

I was thinking that... I might suggest it. They haven't had a screensaver since their original website in 1996 (note the spherical grid which every meeja designer used to symbolise the net at the time).

That same screensaver was still on the website right up until the new website launched a couple of weeks ago.

The new signage on the S4C building looks quite nice. I took a picture of the new logo, but didn't want to stand there taking pictures for too long, so didn't manage to get any others.

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/2366/07012711332000em3.jpg

It's a shame the logo isn't in black and red, as it is on the website. It looks a little too plain in all white.

The other signs around the building (e.g. for parking and directions) are white rounded rectangles with blue writing, with a point coming out of the bottom left, to make a speech bubble shape. They look quite plain, but stylish at the same time.

There's a picture of the filming of the 'Chairs' ident on page 2 of Sgrin (a magazine I had no idea existed). You can view it online by going to the S4C website and click on 'Download Sgrîn' or 'Lawrlwytho Sgrîn'. If only there was an English version - the article could be an interesting read.
NM
nate mate
Oooh thanks for that magazine - I was pleased to find an article on Beryl, Y Brodias a'r fideo.

Oh dear god Glyn and Imogen are in here.
RH
Rhysey
I'm happy to translate the Sgrïn article on the rebrand if anyone's interested? It seems from the quick read I had that the /C part of the logo was intended to convey the fact that this was "Fourth Channel for / Wales" in effect, as I guessed.
CJ
Chris J
Ooh, yes please, if it's not too much trouble. I'd certainly be interested in having a read. Very Happy
RH
Rhysey
An English translation of the article originally published in Welsh in Sgrin magazine. Weblink: http://www.s4c.com/sgrin/sgrin1.zip. Some Welsh words don't have direct translations into English. In these cases I have used the most suitable English word, whilst maintaining the essence of the sentence.

Quote:

Over the next few weeks, you are bound to notice a number of changes to the way that S4C looks, both on and off screen. Eurgain Haf talks to Dylan Griffith , S4C's Creative Consultant about these changes, which are part of a project to rebrand the Channel.


Dylan, what has happened to the dragons?!
I have put them to sleep for a few centuries. The dragons - the iron etc. - succeeded in holding their own as icons of S4C for a decade or more, but that is more than long enough, even for a mythylogical beast! Mr Blobby was a hero back in 1993, so the broadcasting world has transformed since then. The digital-only age is approaching, and there are new means of watching television programmes, so it is important that S4C assumes a prominent place for itself. The process of re-defining the channel's branding, by introducing contemporary, confident - and possibly economical - ideas is part of this effort.

How does one go about creating a new brand or format?
As part of an open policy, branding companies were invited to submit new ideas to S4C. Proud Creative was the company who suceeded in grabbing our imaginations with their simple, yet original, ideas. Over the last few months I have been working closely with Proud to finalise these ideas. The fruits of our labour - which included everything that is to do with the identity of the Channel - are now available for all to see on television screens, new media and printed media.

The new branding included an attractive series of short films that are shown before and after programmes on S4C. What inspired them?
These scenes show common items, such as chairs or lights, being drawn together in a very unexplainable way. Our purpose is to create a feeling of togetherness and of belonging, and the aim is to grab hold of the peoples' imaginations and to encourage them to see the world - and S4C - in a new way. You can see these films on S4C's website, s4c.co.uk/brand.

What else is changing?
Logo
The forward slash is, by now, part of everyday language, for example with web/text/mobile phones etc. The new logo also emphasises the 'C' in S4C, the heart and focus of the Channel.

Symbols*
These symbols, which explain what additional services are available to S4C viewers, are an opportunity to add to the personality of the new brand. In the past these have been rather corporate-like messages, but the intention now is to make them more friendly, open and memorable.
- Owl symbol | Subtitles available
- Computer symbol | The ability to watch your favourite S4C programmes any time on your own computer via broadband
- Speech bubble symbol | Audio description available
- Mobile telephone symbol | As the Channel's plans progress, we will make greater use of mobile technology.


*Pictures of the symbols themselves are available in the article.
JR
jrothwell97
Quote:
The new branding included an attractive series of short films that are shown before and after programmes on S4C. What inspired them?


Attractive? My foot! (euphemism)
CJ
Chris J
Thanks for translating it Very Happy

Quote:
These scenes show common items, such as chairs or lights, being drawn together in a very unexplainable way. Our purpose is to create a feeling of togetherness and of belonging, and the aim is to grab hold of the peoples' imaginations and to encourage them to see the world - and S4C - in a new way.

Nobody outside of the branding world is going to realise that. I'd be surprised if many people within the branding world would. I've seen quite a few of the idents, and the only one in which things are drawn together is the Chairs ident.

They all look so bland and unwelcoming. It may encourage people to see S4C in a new way, but certainly not in a good way. Even the random selection of idents we had for a few days at the start of January were better than these.

I do love the rest of the channel's presentation though, and even the new logo's grown on me. If they changed the idents, it could be perfect.
TV
TVDragon
Chris J posted:
I've seen quite a few of the idents, and the only one in which things are drawn together is the Chairs ident.


Well yes quite.

Still no sign of the closedown screens -- mind you after the weather this evening on the digital service there was a film of the making of these idents, accompanied by that lovely schools music.

In the absence of a video [which the dragon pc seems not to permit] some caps -- due to number they're quite small but basically it's all done with wires and witchcraft.

http://www.gorillaenterprises.co.uk/upload/uploadFiles/s4cidentsfilm01.jpg http://www.gorillaenterprises.co.uk/upload/uploadFiles/s4cidentsfilm02.jpg http://www.gorillaenterprises.co.uk/upload/uploadFiles/s4cidentsfilm03.jpg http://www.gorillaenterprises.co.uk/upload/uploadFiles/s4cidentsfilm04.jpg http://www.gorillaenterprises.co.uk/upload/uploadFiles/s4cidentsfilm05.jpg http://www.gorillaenterprises.co.uk/upload/uploadFiles/s4cidentsfilm06.jpg
http://www.gorillaenterprises.co.uk/upload/uploadFiles/s4cidentsfilm07.jpg http://www.gorillaenterprises.co.uk/upload/uploadFiles/s4cidentsfilm08.jpg http://www.gorillaenterprises.co.uk/upload/uploadFiles/s4cidentsfilm09.jpg http://www.gorillaenterprises.co.uk/upload/uploadFiles/s4cidentsfilm10.jpg http://www.gorillaenterprises.co.uk/upload/uploadFiles/s4cidentsfilm11.jpg http://www.gorillaenterprises.co.uk/upload/uploadFiles/s4cidentsfilm12.jpg
http://www.gorillaenterprises.co.uk/upload/uploadFiles/s4cidentsfilm13.jpg http://www.gorillaenterprises.co.uk/upload/uploadFiles/s4cidentsfilm14.jpg http://www.gorillaenterprises.co.uk/upload/uploadFiles/s4cidentsfilm15.jpg http://www.gorillaenterprises.co.uk/upload/uploadFiles/s4cidentsfilm16.jpg http://www.gorillaenterprises.co.uk/upload/uploadFiles/s4cidentsfilm17.jpg http://www.gorillaenterprises.co.uk/upload/uploadFiles/s4cidentsfilm18.jpg
http://www.gorillaenterprises.co.uk/upload/uploadFiles/s4cidentsfilm19.jpg
MI
Michael
Heard something in S4/C continuity yesterday for the first time - "Sianel Pedwar Cymru" - saying the full name of the station instead of S4C or S-pedwar-ec.
DA
dafydd
The music composer for the idents is Simon Pyke aka Freeform. The racing lines 'schools' ident is being made into a screensaver for internal use, but could be released if enough people ask for it Smile

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