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itsrobert Founding member
nwtv2003 posted:
itsrobert posted:
That schedule is from just before the June 1997 revamp of Breakfast News. The one above would still have been the Virtual Era look - when they changed everything in 1997, did they still have Business Breakfast for a while, or was it completely axed then? It's strange to think that BBC1 used to show a full hour of business news as part of the breakfast time programming, yet today's Breakfast features only a couple of minutes every half hour.


Business Breakfast continyed for at least a year or two after the revamp of Breakfast News, but IIRC it ended by 1999.


That's interesting. There isn't a lot of coverage of Business Breakfast on TV pres websites, so it's hard to find out about it. Did it continue to use the Virtual Era look once Breakfast News had ditched it in 1997?
JE
Jez Founding member
Also its interesting to compare how different Sunday's were on ITV 5 years ago when regions did their own thing during the afternoons.

This schedule from 9th April 2000 (HTV Wales)

9.25am CITV
10.30am Jesus 2000
10.35am Sunday Morning
11.30am Waterfront
12.00pm HTV News
12.05pm ITV News
12.15pm F1
3.15pm Film: The count of Monte cristo
5.10pm The Front Row
6.10pm Soccer Sunday
6.40pm HTV News
6.45pm ITV News
7.00pm Family Fortunes
7.30pm Coronation Street
8.00pm A Touch of Frost
10.00pm Bob Martin
10.45pm ITV News
11.00pm The South Bank Show
12.00am FI Highlights

Regional Variations

HTV West

11.30am HTV Newsweek
3.15pm-6.00pm Film: The Alamo
6.00pm-6.40pm The West Match

Central

11.30am Lifeline
11.35am Central Newsweek
3.15pm Hollywood Greatest Stunts
4.10pm Film: The Forgotton City of Planet of the Apes
6.00pm Preview
6.30pm Central News

Meridian

11.30am Seven Days
3.15pm Murder She Wrote
4.15pm Anatomy of Disaster
5.15pm Grass Roots
5.45pm Meridian News
6.15pm The Estate

Granada

11.30am Carprice's Travels
3.15pm Murder She Wrote
4.05pm Coronation Street
5.00pm Storm Force
5.30pm The Motor Show
6.00pm Granada News
6.05pm Soccer Sunday

Interesting the length of the regional news bulletins were different from half an hour on Meridian to just 5 minutes on Granada/HTV. Also most regions showed different films.
TV
TVDragon
nok32uk posted:
Bazaar(BBC1)

Oh goodness that was terrible. If anything needs to come back it's definitely Watercolour Challenge -- I demand it returns.

Jez posted:
Also its interesting to compare how different Sunday's were on ITV 5 years ago when regions did their own thing during the afternoons.

Well young Jez, a look in the dragon archive reveals Sundays were pretty much two different days up until 7pm back then, depending in which HTV land you lived, and different again on Westcountry. It is odd to think it wasn't that long ago that regions bought films separately.

Wales opted out of CITV on 26.05.99 it appears for some bobbins about opening the assembly.
NW
nwtv2003
itsrobert posted:
nwtv2003 posted:
itsrobert posted:
That schedule is from just before the June 1997 revamp of Breakfast News. The one above would still have been the Virtual Era look - when they changed everything in 1997, did they still have Business Breakfast for a while, or was it completely axed then? It's strange to think that BBC1 used to show a full hour of business news as part of the breakfast time programming, yet today's Breakfast features only a couple of minutes every half hour.


Business Breakfast continyed for at least a year or two after the revamp of Breakfast News, but IIRC it ended by 1999.


That's interesting. There isn't a lot of coverage of Business Breakfast on TV pres websites, so it's hard to find out about it. Did it continue to use the Virtual Era look once Breakfast News had ditched it in 1997?


IIRC Business Breakfast used the same titles as Breakfast News after June 1997, they only alteration was at the end where Business Breakfast was inserted instead of Breakfast News.

Here's the Sunday before from Granada, see how different it is

5.30am ITN News
6.00am The Sunday Review
7.00am The Sunday Programme
8.00am Tom and Jerry Kids
8.25am Disney's Roadhog
9.25am Twinkle the Dream Being
9.40am Captain Simian and the Space Monkeys
10.05am Morning Worship
11.05am Link
11.20am Jonathan Dimbleby
12.20pm Gardener's Diary
12.45pm Regional News; Weather
12.50pm ITN News; Weather
1.00pm F1: Monaco Grand Prix
3.55pm FILM: Nurse on Wheels
5.20pm Coronation Street
6.10pm Wish You Were Here...?
6.40pm Regional News; Weather
6.45pm ITN News; Weather
7.00pm Bruce Forsyth's Play Your Cards Right
7.30pm Coronation Street
8.00pm Where The Heart Is
9.00pm The Knock
10.00pm The Clive James Show
10.45pm ITN News; Weather
11.00pm F1: Monaco Grand Prix Highlights
12.00am FILM: The Fourth War
1.40am Funny Business; News Headlines
2.15am FILM: LadyHawke; News Headlines
4.30am Cool Vibes
4.35am-5.30am Jonanthan Dimbleby

...not as different as Weekdays, though the teatime/early evening doesn't appear to be too different.
JE
Jez Founding member
TVDragon posted:
Well young Jez, a look in the dragon archive reveals Sundays were pretty much two different days up until 7pm back then, depending in which HTV land you lived, and different again on Westcountry. It is odd to think it wasn't that long ago that regions bought films separately.


Shame they will never go back to that, now we are lucky if we get 1 single regional variation on a Sunday, and even that 1 remaining slot is to apparently go next year. Rolling Eyes

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Here's the Sunday before from Granada, see how different it is


I remember Granada liked showing their repeats of Corrie from the week/night before on Sunday afternoons and at lunchtimes during the week.
NW
nwtv2003
Granada always showed their Ominbus on Sunday teatimes, but when it went 4 times a week in 1996, they showed two episode on Sunday teatimes and then the other 2 at 1.00pm on a Friday. Then that divided into a couple of afternoon showings by 2000 or so. Though IIRC in 1993 in addition to the Sunday repeats they also made a fuss of the Lunchtime repeats.

They gave Emmerdale a lunchtime repeat aswell, but people weren't too happy when Granada moved the lunchtime repeat to 11.40pm usually later, but it got moved back sometime and then disappeared.
SC
Si-Co
ITV Regions Afternoon Schedule
(Monday 29 January 1996)


Here I've listed every region and their daytime shows, starting at 12.55 after the (ITN) Lunchtime News and Weather. The programmes are pretty much the same, but scheduled at different times depending on the region.

CARLTON

12.55 Home and Away
1.25 Chain Letters
1.55 Shortland Street
2.20 Blue Heelers
3.20 News; Regional News and Weather
3.30 Children's ITV
5.10 After 5
followed by The Missing File
5.40 Early Evening News; Weather
5.55 Your Shout
6.00 Home and Away
6.30 London Tonight

MERIDIAN / CHANNEL

12.55 Chain Letters
1.25 Home and Away
1.55 A Country Practice
2.25 Blue Heelers
3.20 News; Regional News and Weather
3.25 Puffin's Pla(i)ce (Channel only)
3.30 Children's ITV
5.10 Home and Away
followed by Three Minutes - The Listings (Meridian only)
5.35 Puffin's Pla(i)ce (Channel only)
5.40 Early Evening News; Weather
6.00 Meridian Tonight (Meridian)
6.00 Channel Report; Weather (Channel only)
6.30 Country Ways

WESTCOUNTRY

12.55 Chain Letters
1.25 Coronation Street
1.55 Home and Away
2.25 Gardener's Diary
2.50 High Road
3.20 News; Regional News and Weather
3.30 Children's ITV
5.10 Home and Away
5.40 Early Evening News; Weather
6.00 Westcountry Live (until 7pm)

ANGLIA

12.55 Coronation Street
1.25 Home and Away
1.55 Blue Heelers
2.50 Chain Letters
3.20 News; Regional News and Weather
3.30 Children's ITV
5.10 Shortland Street
5.40 Early Evening News; Weather
6.00 Home and Away
followed by Regional Weather
6.30 Anglia News

CENTRAL

12.55 Home and Away
1.25 Chain Letters
1.55 A Country Practice
2.20 Blue Heelers
3.20 News; Regional News
3.30 Children's ITV
5.10 Shortland Street
5.40 Early Evening News; Weather
6.00 Home and Away
6.25 Central News

HTV

12.55 Shortland Street
1.20 Coronation Street
1.50 Home and Away
2.20 Chain Letters
2.50 Simlpy Delicious with Family and Friends
3.20 News; Regional News
3.30 Children's ITV
5.10 The List (West)
5.10 Ready Money (Wales)
5.40 Early Evening News; Weather
6.00 Home and Away
6.25 HTV News (West)
6.45 Sportsweek (West)
6.25 Wales Tonight (Wales, until 7pm)
followed by Regional Weather

YORKSHIRE / TYNE TEES

12.55 Home and Away
1.25 Chain Letters
1.55 Coronation Street
2.25 Wish You Were Here..?
2.55 Shortland Street
3.20 News; Regional News and Weather
3.30 Children's ITV
5.10 Home and Away
5.40 Early Evening News; Weather
5.55 Calendar (YTV)
5.55 Tyne Tees News (TTTV)
6.30 Tonight (different show in both regions)
followed by Regional Weather

GRANADA

12.55 Shortland Street
1.25 Home and Away
1.50 Cooking at the Academy
2.20 Murder, She Wrote
3.20 News; Regional News
3.30 Children's ITV
5.10 PMTV
5.40 Early Evening News; Weather
6.00 Home and Away
followed by Regional Weather
6.25 Granada Tonight

BORDER

12.55 Shortland Street
1.25 Home and Away
1.50 Cooking at the Academy
2.25 Highway to Heaven
3.20 News; Regional News
3.30 Children's ITV
5.10 Movies, Games and Videos
5.40 Early Evening News; Weather
6.00 Lookaround
followed by Regional Weather
6.30 Home and Away

ULSTER

12.55 Coronation Street
1.25 Home and Away
1.55 Fair City
2.50 Chain Letters
3.20 News; UTV Live News and Weather
3.30 Children's ITV
5.10 Home and Away
5.40 Early Evening News; Weather
6.00 UTV Live at 6 (until 7pm)

SCOTTISH

12.55 Scotland Today
1.20 Oirthir (in Gaelic)
1.50 Home and Away
2.20 Chain Letters
2.50 Coronation Street
3.20 News; Regional News
3.30 Children's ITV
5.10 Family Fortunes
5.40 Early Evening News; Weather
6.00 Home and Away
6.30 Scotland Today

GRAMPIAN

12.55 Coronation Street
1.25 Home and Away
1.50 A Country Practice
2.20 Speaking Our Language (in Gaelic)
2.50 Chain Letters
3.20 News; Regional News
3.30 Children's ITV
followed by The Birthday Spot
5.10 Paradise Beach
5.40 Early Evening News; Weather
6.00 Telefios (in Gaelic)
6.05 Home and Away
6.30 North Tonight; Weather

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As I mentioned above, in the mid-90s it was usually the same episode of shows like Chain Letters and the Corrie repeats going out, whereas with the purchased programmes (the endless Aussie soaps, for example) generally speaking each region was at a different stage in the storyline (though Border took Granada's episodes of some shows).

It's very nostalgic to see the variations in scheduling, compared with today, but what I'm wondering is were the powers-that-be in each region actually actively deciding 'Chain Letters will work at 2.50, Home and Away will work at 12.55' or was it more case of 'Let's take Carlton's feed of Chain Letters, so it will go out at 1.25'.
NW
nwtv2003
Here's some Variations from that Friday and there's one in Border's that I find interesting...

Granada
12.55pm Shortland Street
1.25pm Home and Away
1.50pm Coronation Street
2.50pm Dogs with Dunbar

5.10pm Home and Away

6.00pm Granada Tonight
6.30pm On The Ball

Border
5.10pm Blockbusters

6.00pm Lookaround
6.30pm Home and Away

Central
12.55pm A Country Practice
1.25pm Home and Away
1.50pm Murder She Wrote
2.50pm Secrets from the Secret Garden

5.10pm Shortland Street

6.00pm Home and Away
6.25pm Central News; Weather

HTV As Central except....
12.55pm West: Our House, Wales: Designed by Emmanuel

2.50pm West: Garden Calendar, Wales: The Pulse

6.25pm HTV Weather
6.30pm West: The West Tonight, Wales: Wales Tonight

...odd Border were still showing Blockbusters in 1997, even though it was also on BBC2 on the same day at 4pm! Though it was the poor Aspel version.
SC
Si-Co
I also noticed that Scottish were showing Emmerdale at 5.10pm, although it had a prime-time slot everywhere else.
PT
Put The Telly On
TVDragon posted:
nok32uk posted:
Bazaar(BBC1)

Oh goodness that was terrible.


Laughing You remember it. I never really watched it as my mum always wanted to turn over when it came on. Funny how I remember things like that considering I was only 4!
FL
Flava
Daytimes used to be a lot better on ITV - losing Home & Away didn't exactly help but the other Antipodean imports, such as A Country Practice and Shortland Street, were also very good.

I always found it odd that some regions chose to show the teatime showing of Home & Away at 6pm (or in Border's case, 6.30pm) whereas other regions chose to air it at 5.10pm. I'm guessing whilst it was still on ITV that it was the highest-rating daytime programme.

That said it did become networked at 1pm and 5pm by March 1999 (when Regional News went to 6, National at 6.30) and stayed like that until it went to Channel 5.

Daytimes in the last five years have been weak.

Interesting that lunchtime editions of Corrie and Emmerdale aren't shown these days - I thought that that would have been more popular for ITV to do now.
FL
Flava
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As I mentioned above, in the mid-90s it was usually the same episode of shows like Chain Letters and the Corrie repeats going out, whereas with the purchased programmes (the endless Aussie soaps, for example) generally speaking each region was at a different stage in the storyline (though Border took Granada's episodes of some shows).
With Shortland Street this has always been the case - I think HTV was six months behind Central for example.

AFAIK Home & Away was the same episode in each region although that's because the programme was "looked after" by Carlton (ie they had the deals with Seven) who then sent tapes to the regions. (Which is why all regions had the same scenes cut from the show and they were forced to drop the two episodes in 1996 and 1998 that they did drop - although Central were known to further regionally edit it on occasions.)

But with everything else it was done on a regional basis.

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