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pip2164 posts since 14 Mar 2012
Meridian (South) South East Today
So what exactly is "cheeky" about the 2 dressed up like a Chinese Dragon?

It knocked the motorbike over and didn't care.


Plus, if you take cheeky to mean impertinent, discourteous, disrespectful or impolite... in Chinese culture it is considered taboo to disfigure a depiction of a dragon. Whether configuring a depiction into a figure counts as disfiguring or not I can't figure. Confused
FBC (previously FBCNL) 322 posts since 16 May 2004
London London
So what exactly is "cheeky" about the 2 dressed up like a Chinese Dragon?

It knocked the motorbike over and didn't care.


Plus, if you take cheeky to mean impertinent, discourteous, disrespectful or impolite... in Chinese culture it is considered taboo to disfigure a depiction of a dragon. Whether configuring a depiction into a figure counts as disfiguring or not I can't figure. Confused

There truly are no winners here...
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Brekkie26,910 posts since 4 Jan 2003
HTV Wales Wales Today
Yeah it's not really recapturing the magic of the 1991-2000 set, is it?

what on earth do you want from it then? Easily better than anything from the Window era while great to have an ident made this century on BBC2. It's let down hugely by the box and "China Season" aston, but the ident itself shows that if the BBC could be bothered they could breathe new life into the 2.
Shouldn't that have been posted in the "John Logie Baird has Invented Television" thread?
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Interceptor613 posts since 20 Oct 2014
I'd like them to understand the dynamic of the 2 they have now. The 2 isn't supposed to be a bouncy personality, it's supposed to be an object which is either subjected to something and/or dressed up in a particular way. There is loads of scope to do an ident with the same overall feel without resorting to the frankly cheap and overdone "give the 2 some attitude".
Brekkie26,910 posts since 4 Jan 2003
HTV Wales Wales Today
I'd like them to understand the dynamic of the 2 they have now. The 2 isn't supposed to be a bouncy personality, it's supposed to be an object which is either subjected to something and/or dressed up in a particular way.

Says who? Once again TV Forumers getting tied up in branding rules that don't actually exist.
Shouldn't that have been posted in the "John Logie Baird has Invented Television" thread?
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Interceptor613 posts since 20 Oct 2014
I'd like them to understand the dynamic of the 2 they have now. The 2 isn't supposed to be a bouncy personality, it's supposed to be an object which is either subjected to something and/or dressed up in a particular way.

Says who? Once again TV Forumers getting tied up in branding rules that don't actually exist.

Martin Lambie-Nairn.

Yeah it's not really recapturing the magic of the 1991-2000 set, is it?

But does it really need to recapture the magic or forge it's own path?

If they want to do that then fair enough but you need to stop the good ones and go down that path fully. Idents like this, and the snooker one from last year, are just making the whole thing more of an incoherent mess.
DTV1,178 posts since 27 Feb 2012
Meridian (South) South Today
To be honest, I quite like the ident. It reminds me of the 2001-2007 idents which for me pip the 1991 set to the post as my favourite set of idents. Also on the issue of the 1991 '2' being purely an object with no personalty, the stings would beg to differ as would the swan, Dalek etc. idents.
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Interceptor613 posts since 20 Oct 2014
To be honest, I quite like the ident. It reminds me of the 2001-2007 idents which for me pip the 1991 set to the post as my favourite set of idents. Also on the issue of the 1991 '2' being purely an object with no personalty, the stings would beg to differ as would the swan, Dalek etc. idents.

These are just likenesses formed by a fixed shape 2. There's a difference.

I agree this would work better alongside the yellow idents, which for me always felt like cheap imitations.