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Spencer For Hire5,170 posts since 13 Jan 2003
Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Well, they kept their identities anyway. Common logos, sure, but they kept the local names.

Lots of local programming too, not just a breakfast show and then over to London for the rest of the day


No local programming for TFM at all in fact. The station was essentially closed down, and now just relays Metro Radio from Newcastle, albeit with split idents to retain the TFM name.
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Stedixon359 posts since 28 Nov 2006
Tyne Tees Look North (North East)
Well, they kept their identities anyway. Common logos, sure, but they kept the local names.

Lots of local programming too, not just a breakfast show and then over to London for the rest of the day


No local programming for TFM at all in fact. The station was essentially closed down, and now just relays Metro Radio from Newcastle, albeit with split idents to retain the TFM name.


That's what I meant by Bauer trashing it.
Markymark4,378 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today
Lots of local programming too, not just a breakfast show and then over to London for the rest of the day


No local programming for TFM at all in fact. The station was essentially closed down, and now just relays Metro Radio from Newcastle, albeit with split idents to retain the TFM name.


That's what I meant by Bauer trashing it.


ILR in the 70s and 80s was a textbook model of commercially funded PSB radio. The 1991 Broadcasting Act changed all that. Glad to have lived through that era, but everything changed during the 90s.

All that prevents ITV from abandoning its PSB commitments is that crown jewel of being third from top on the EPG
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noggin12,074 posts since 26 Jun 2001


All that prevents ITV from abandoning its PSB commitments is that crown jewel of being third from top on the EPG


Don't they still get 1/2 (or just under) of PSB2 as gifted spectrum too? That's got to be worth something...
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Inspector Sands10,531 posts since 25 Aug 2004
What happened with PSB2 on switchover? Originally D3+4 was something like 49.5% ITV and Channel 4 with the remaining being Teletext's. Now they've gone and Channel 5 were given a place. How is it managed and carved up now?
MetalGearRex852 posts since 11 May 2016
London London
What happened with PSB2 on switchover? Originally D3+4 was something like 49.5% ITV and Channel 4 with the remaining being Teletext's. Now they've gone and Channel 5 were given a place. How is it managed and carved up now?

From memory, PSB2 housed the main ITV and Channel 4 services and their offshoots as part of the obligation for their licence. Channel 5 managed to gain a slot - by virtue of gaining maximum coverage by switchover.

Teletext's removal, and other Text services (including the defunct Rabbit services) and Heart were moved to COM4, freeing up further space for an extra two streams (for Film4 and ITV4).

For the record, ITV's half of course has ITV/+1/2, as well as having Channel 5 to maintain maximum coverage as I've mentioned. ITV4 gained prominence over ITV3 thanks to the various sporting events it shows.

Channel 4 and it's more popular offshoots fill the remaining half of PSB2 as usual.
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Markymark4,378 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today
What happened with PSB2 on switchover? Originally D3+4 was something like 49.5% ITV and Channel 4 with the remaining being Teletext's. Now they've gone and Channel 5 were given a place. How is it managed and carved up now?

From memory, PSB2 housed the main ITV and Channel 4 services and their offshoots as part of the obligation for their licence. Channel 5 managed to gain a slot - by virtue of gaining maximum coverage by switchover.

Teletext's removal, and other Text services (including the defunct Rabbit services) and Heart were moved to COM4, freeing up further space for an extra two streams (for Film4 and ITV4).

For the record, ITV's half of course has ITV/+1/2, as well as having Channel 5 to maintain maximum coverage as I've mentioned. ITV4 gained prominence over ITV3 thanks to the various sporting events it shows.

Channel 4 and it's more popular offshoots fill the remaining half of PSB2 as usual.


Although in the Channel TV region ITV+1 isn't carried (presumably because CTV can't afford the server provision) so ITV 3 is carried on PSB2 instead (along with ITV 4) . Only PSB 1/2/3 are available on the islands. And PSB3 lacks any form of 'ITV' HD

In Wales S4C is carried on PSB2, at the expense of E4 which is on COM4 there
nwtv20037,899 posts since 5 Jan 2003
Granada North West Today
So channel 5 took one of ITV bandwidth rather than a bit of ITVs and a bit of Ch4s?

And ITV also lost out by having their SDN mux relegated to a commercial Mux rather than a PSB?


Didn't all that start to kick off when the SDN was effectively run down, and emptied, before being reborn in DVB-T2 as PSB 3 (to carry HD) ?


You're thinking BBC B, that became PSB3 which carries the main 5 channels in HD amongst others.
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Markymark4,378 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today
So channel 5 took one of ITV bandwidth rather than a bit of ITVs and a bit of Ch4s?

And ITV also lost out by having their SDN mux relegated to a commercial Mux rather than a PSB?


Didn't all that start to kick off when the SDN was effectively run down, and emptied, before being reborn in DVB-T2 as PSB 3 (to carry HD) ?


You're thinking BBC B, that became PSB3 which carries the main 5 channels in HD amongst others.


Doh ! Yes, you're quite right. SDN became COM4, ta !