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My first look at Border ITV1

(November 2001)

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JA
Jason
And...?

If it allows them to be economical then this has to be a good thing. Like the way they kept the old titles for 8 years. I really don't see that as a problem.

And as I say, Border obviously realise the dubious quality of Leeds continuity, as they seem to opt out of it wherever they can (trailers, continuity into news programmes etc).

If only Granada and TTTV could be bothered...
DA
DAS Founding member
I can assure you Andrew that London Tonight lasts 15 seconds as well, unless you were watching the late bulletin in which case you are correct.

Anglia News lasts about 5 seconds, Meridian 5 to 10.
AN
Andrew Founding member
DAS posted:
I can assure you Andrew that London Tonight lasts 15 seconds as well, unless you were watching the late bulletin in which case you are correct.

Anglia News lasts about 5 seconds, Meridian 5 to 10.


Yes I was talking about the London Tonight/Today 'News' titles.

It just seems that a 15 seconds long title sequence for a short bulletin is awfully long.
It strikes me as a bit of 'filling up the time', like UK Today do at Breakfast.
DA
DAS Founding member
Ah right, gotcha
GE
geordster
what really annoys me is the fact that the generic itv ident GMG use for Tyne Tees is now more than a year out of date and still uses the old TTTV logo (without all the spots) ...I mean how difficult can it be to superimpose a new blue square on the ident.
JA
Jason
Quite.

Especially as I am told that ITV completely re-made the idents when the ITV1 branding came in.

Why they couldn't have changed it then is beyond me.

Probably the same reason that the name Tyne Tees on text page 620 was misspelt for 6 months before I phoned Intelfax up and told them myself. (I had previously emailed TTTV, they forwarded it to YTV and from there, who knows, I never got a reply....)
GE
geordster
...and Tyne Tees Text still has the old logo on Page 600 as well...
HA
harshy Founding member
This is precisely why I think Tyne Tees along with the other GMG regions in the North are crap.

The sad thing is that all the GMG regions in the North have such distinctive logos!
TE
tesandco Founding member
geordster posted:
...and Tyne Tees Text still has the old logo on Page 600 as well...


The old logo pretty much appears everywhere besides the local ident, and trailers. When Channel 3 North East was dropped, they were very quick to stitch new patches over the top of the logo on their jackets. This wasnt done with the new TTTV in 2000.

Also I noticed that in the 2001 edition of The BT phone book, the image under Tyne Tees is still that 98-99 ident!!!!


P.s - I remember that silly spelling mistake on TTTV text p620 too. The one, which informed us we were viewing the text of 'Tyne Tess Television'.
AN
Andrew Founding member
The stuff on the Pg600 teletext is the responsiblity of Intelfax.

YTV hasn't got of lightly here, 626 was once talking about 'Tonight News' taking a Summer break.

The old logo might be still the corporate logo, On all promotional materials, umbrellas, on buildings etc, YTV still use the Pre-1987 logo with
YORKSHIRE
TELEVISION
written underneath in Big black letters.

The new one with the dots, might just be there to look good on the screen;)
HA
harshy Founding member
Yes you are right, in my old grammar school I used to go to, we had the picture of the YTV television centre, and indeed it's the old logo from the 80's

In fact the old logo is still going very strong, used on camera stickers, I bet ya the 80's logo is still standing outside Tv centre today!
JA
Jason
It is.

Anyway, although yes the ancillary service is the responsibility of Intelfax, TTTV did tell me that the pages were compiled at Leeds and sent to Intelfax for processing. They copied me in on the email they sent to Leeds.

It just annoyed me that while every time I've emailed TTTV for anything they've always responded in a swift and courteous manner, YTV obviously threw a forwarded email from a sister company in the bin. They could at least have had the common manners to email me back, it doesn't take much...

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