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ohwhatanight3,055 posts since 2 Jul 2001
it seemed to have affected HTV west, HTV wales and Carlton westcountry transmissions as well!

it would have made more sense to have the carlton (westcountry) transmission rebroadcast to the carlton central area as atleast the announcer could still say you are watching carlton and there would be no difference with the idents or anything!

why use lwt as a back up plan for carlton central - seems quite bizarre to me!
ctuk0 post since 28 Apr 2001
ohwhatanight posted:
it seemed to have affected HTV west, HTV wales and Carlton westcountry transmissions as well!

it would have made more sense to have the carlton (westcountry) transmission rebroadcast to the carlton central area as atleast the announcer could still say you are watching carlton and there would be no difference with the idents or anything!

why use lwt as a back up plan for carlton central - seems quite bizarre to me!


Because if there was a problem with Carlton Central during the week, Carlton Central would back up to Carlton London.
geraint0 post since 27 Jun 2001
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it would have made more sense to have the carlton (westcountry) transmission rebroadcast to the carlton central area as atleast the announcer could still say you are watching carlton and there would be no difference with the idents or anything!

why use lwt as a back up plan for carlton central - seems quite bizarre to me!


Because it's easier to rebroadcast from neighbouring transmitters. Logically you couldn't rebroadcast a signal from the nearest Carlton Westcountry Transmitter without a hop through HTV West Land (Mendip) all of which costs extra pennies. Anyway, why broadcast Westcountry if they can't put out programmes because the switching of network material to them is done in Birmingham? It's easier to put out LWT which is originating most of the ITV Network material.

Anyway, I bet Granada were loving it. Fancy them gaining control of Carlton, if only for a few hours......

Geraint
ohwhatanight3,055 posts since 2 Jul 2001
ctuk posted:
Because if there was a problem with Carlton Central during the week, Carlton Central would back up to Carlton London.


You have answered my question already - Carlton only broadcast during the week and then have a granada compnay as backup for the weekend!

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It's easier to put out LWT which is originating most of the ITV Network material.


The point was that Carlton central were supplying 'their' little network of carlton channels with programmes when the power cut happened and nothing was sourced from LWT at the start! So surely it wouldve made sense to have used carlton westcountry as

1) the continuity and idents would have looked no different
2) carlton westcountry is broadcast from cardiff and is the same amount of transmitter/NTL/BT switching away and makes no difference in cost or complexity wether it was lwt or carlton westcountry supplying the feed
3) carlton wont have to pay granada any money for the service they did provide!
4) the rest of the network wouldnt have suffered from getting a 'dirty feed' from london - looked awful on air especially with all the arc switching!
kevin0 post since 24 Mar 2001
I don't think that Carlton routing LWT onto it's air in the central region was a bad idea, as the Sutton Coldfield transmitter is located in a much better location to pick up from a re-broadcast from Daventry from London, than it is to recoup a feed from Cardiff...

It would also not cost Carlton anything to re-distribute Granada networks during a channel downtime as that on Sunday, because of the rules set in place from the ITC regarding ITV franchises and affiliations...

Cheers
kev
williamneale0 post since 14 Jul 2001
Since Sunday, Carlton Central has been plagued with problems. Central News takes ages to come on, GMTV cannot link to the Birmingham studios, brek bumpers are missing and the picture goes strange when switching to the network. It's not that bad though. The ITC could fine them for providing a poor service.
InTune161 posts since 30 Jun 2001
There was once a power failure in Manchester affecting Granada TV Quay Street. The transmitter took a feed from Yorkshire Television.
As I recall the screens went to white noise, then black, the stripey engineering test card. Then after a few minutes Yorkshire's Lunchtime Calender News appeared in vision only, no sound which came thirty seconds later.
The local news finished a YTV logo appeared and said something along the lines of: 'And we welcome viewers from Granada in the North West who are currently experiencing power problems, now ITN.'
This was Granada bought YTV. So there must be back-up relay feeds from the nearest transmitter.
Incidently, I presume ITV operates the same way as commercial radio in respect of local adverts. If an ad break wasn't played it would be rescheduled at a later time, or they would be given a discount when they book their next campaign.