BBC+1 Channels mentioned on Points of View

A Freeview slot and transponder space on DSat aren't cheap.

Zero costs !! What about repeat fees for starters, then having someone chop out programmes (movies mainly) that cannot be repeated

i player is unusable for the millions who have sub 2 Mb/s internet connections. And don't forget 20-25% of homes still have NO internet connection (or computer).

That's where the Desktop Manager is for. A little wait, but you get the programme eventually even in HD.

You don't need a computer; and I'd suggest if you don't have one then you are limiting yourself.

I used iPlayer (SD) with no particular issues on my dodgy countryside 1.25Mbps when I had to deal with it; and there's always the downloader if streaming is a no-go.

I work with one of that type of person. It can be painful at times.

Yes, of course there are ways around a poor connection, but you're assuming IT savvy users. Shock horror, most people are not, regardless whether they have a slow or fast connection.

And yes, many TVs now have a network port, or wifi and can be connected to t'internet for i player etc, but again folk get daunted by the idea.

You need to step out of your IT Savvy bubble, and view things from a different perspective

Not great - but certainly not unusable. Not all iPlayer versions mandate streaming, there are options to download (if your connection isn't fast enough or you want to watch off-line - say on the tube or a plane). Also you don't need a computer - a tablet or smartphone also work fine.

Yes - network ports are often left empty. Wifi is a must if people are going to use IP services on their tellies. Most ADSL modems in houses I see are nowhere near the TV, and few people want to run a network cable to their telly. Powerline networking is a reasonable solution (which is what I use) but it's a faff for non-techies. Plug in USB-powered (most connected TVs also have a USB socket) Ethernet WiFi bridges are also a solution, but setting them up is not that simple - and probably again too much faff for most.

Or you can use Smart Plugs which are another option available. I use them for as my router is in the bedroom, but yet I'm able to use an ethernet cable in the living room due.

The general point about this discussion, given one of the correspondents, is that the phrase "BBC3 and BBC4 can't broadcast during the day, they share with CBBC and CBeebies" should be printed on every page of the Radio Times and in the manual of every television, until people finally get it into their heads.

Yes - that's why I mentioned them! (Smart Plugs are Powerline networking aren't they? Ethernet over domestic mains cabling.)

Think Powerline networking is more popular in Europe - but less so in the US where there are issues in how the 220V mains feed to houses (and also used by some ovens, washing machines etc. in the US) is converted to 110V feeds for wall sockets. They usually split the 220V into 2 x 110V feeds meaning half the sockets are on one "half" of the 220V feed, half on the other, and the two halves don't talk to each other very well with Powerline networking.

That's probably why Moca is more popular in the US - which uses cable-TV/aerial cabling instead for network connections - though it's still relatively unknown in Europe)