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BBC Sets Re-used?

(January 2006)

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Adam
SCOTLAND TODAY ADDICT posted:
bbc three liquid newws set was virtually transported to bristol for points west


All very true - except it wasn't virtually transported, it was just... erm, transported. Wink
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benjy
TG posted:
I think it was that update of Much Ado about Nothing which had the near-perfect copy.

Near-perfect but for the fact it looked better than the original.


That was the one! I knew I'd seen it somewhere.
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Spencer
TG posted:
I think it was that update of Much Ado about Nothing which had the near-perfect copy.

Near-perfect but for the fact it looked better than the original.


Did they not actually use one of the regional news sets, but re-lit?
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Michael
The old Parkinson set seems to have been re-dressed for The Two Ronnies Sketchbook
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Telefis
Why is the Parkinson set on ITV almost the same as the BBC's was?
In fact, is it the same set?
Was it Parky's influence that resulted in this?
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deejay
Telefís posted:
Why is the Parkinson set on ITV almost the same as the BBC's was?
In fact, is it the same set?
Was it Parky's influence that resulted in this?


I wouldn't have thought Parky himself wouldn't have a major influence over the design of the set (though I'm sure he has a valuable opinion on it). More likely that the programme makers wanted to keep the programme looking as much in the same style as possible so that (hopefully) the viewers switched to ITV when the programme did. It's very interesting that it's now 16:9 though, as the Parkinson programme steadfastly refused to go 16:9 at the BBC - they claimed that the 16:9 picture format did not work as well for their style of interviewing. I don't personally agree - I find that a Close Up works as well in 16:9 as it does in 4:3 and in fact, now that I'm more or less completely used to 16:9, looking at a full frame 4:3 programme actually looks a bit weired - and I find a Close Up looks almost too tight and intrusive in 4:3.

Is it right that Parkinson was the last 4:3 Network Commission for the BBC? It must certainly have been one of the last ... with Look Around You being one of the others...
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Spencer
deejay posted:
Is it right that Parkinson was the last 4:3 Network Commission for the BBC? It must certainly have been one of the last ... with Look Around You being one of the others...


I think it depends whether you count BBC World programmes like Talking Movies or not.
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deejay
Spencer For Hire posted:
deejay posted:
Is it right that Parkinson was the last 4:3 Network Commission for the BBC? It must certainly have been one of the last ... with Look Around You being one of the others...


I think it depends whether you count BBC World programmes like Talking Movies or not.


Good point. Though most programmes for BBC World are actually comissioned by BBC News 24 and shown on BBC World - thereby they tend to be comissioned in 16:9 (like Hardtalk) or 14:9 Letterbox (like Talking Movies and a few others). I don't think World has any sole comission programmes any more ... anyone?
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jamesmd
deejay posted:
Spencer For Hire posted:
deejay posted:
Is it right that Parkinson was the last 4:3 Network Commission for the BBC? It must certainly have been one of the last ... with Look Around You being one of the others...


I think it depends whether you count BBC World programmes like Talking Movies or not.


Good point. Though most programmes for BBC World are actually comissioned by BBC News 24 and shown on BBC World - thereby they tend to be comissioned in 16:9 (like Hardtalk) or 14:9 Letterbox (like Talking Movies and a few others). I don't think World has any sole comission programmes any more ... anyone?


Earth Report? World Debate?
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Rob Del Monte
The 'Much ado...' set was based on 'South Today'.

What is 14:9 letterbox?
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benjy
Rob Del Monte posted:
The 'Much ado...' set was based on 'South Today'.

What is 14:9 letterbox?


No, I'm quite certain it was an ITV set. Do you mean Meridian Tonight?
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deejay
Rob Del Monte posted:
The 'Much ado...' set was based on 'South Today'.

What is 14:9 letterbox?


I don't think the set per sé was based on the one used by South Today. The production team behind Much Ado did spend some time in the BBC Southampton newsroom getting a basic feel of what goes on behind the scenes in a regional newsroom. South Today did a feature on this fact some weeks ago and Sally Taylor interviewed the producer (I think) asking him if she'd recognise herself in the programme... !

14:9 Letterbox is a compromise aspect ratio still used by some BBC regional centres. When BBC news went widescreen, not all studio centres were able to re-equip with16:9 gear, but they continued to use their existing 4:3 equipment in an arrangement where everything continued to be be produced in 4:3. However on transmission, the output was cropped top and bottom slightly so the actual picture aspect ratio was 14:9. It's shown as 14:9 Letterbox on Analogue (smallish black bars top and bottom) and 14:9 Pillarbox (smallish black bars either side) on Digital.

This compromise aspect ratio is still used by BBC Southampton , Oxford, Bristol, Cambridge, Manchester, Plymouth and probably a few others I've missed.

"14:9 Shoot and Protect" is slightly different - it's how fully 16:9 material is shot - i.e. the cameramen frame up stuff so that the main action takes place within the 14:9 bit of the frame. This is because 16:9 material shown on the BBC is generally shown 14:9 Letterbox on analogue.

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