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The BBC archive in the event of losing the Royal Charter

(April 2016)

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GE
thegeek Founding member
I heard a rumour that the former company's archive was sold to someone who works for the latter.
SD
sda|
The entirety of the Men and Motors archive was bought by another company, motor programming and other stuff including blokey programmes no-one watched at the time from 1998 is all on YouTube. I had wondered why this content was considered separate from the GSkyB/ITV archive.
WH
Whataday Founding member
sda| posted:
The entirety of the Men and Motors archive was bought by another company, motor programming and other stuff including blokey programmes no-one watched at the time from 1998 is all on YouTube. I had wondered why this content was considered separate from the GSkyB/ITV archive.


There were complicated clauses in the GSkyB contract which would have made it difficult for ITV to simply absorb the archive without paying Sky compensation. It was clearly not worth this and far better to sell the channel complete with archive so that Sky and ITV could get their share of the cash.
ST
Stuart
sda| posted:
The entirety of the Men and Motors archive was bought by another company, motor programming and other stuff including blokey programmes no-one watched at the time from 1998 is all on YouTube. I had wondered why this content was considered separate from the GSkyB/ITV archive.


There were complicated clauses in the GSkyB contract which would have made it difficult for ITV to simply absorb the archive without paying Sky compensation. It was clearly not worth this and far better to sell the channel complete with archive so that Sky and ITV could get their share of the cash.

Indeed, when ITV took full control of GSB (to allow them to close Plus, and launch ITV3: incidentally, in the middle of a programme) there was a clause which still allowed BSkyB to obtain 49% from any sale of M&M.

ITV subsequently closed M&M (to launch ITV HD), and surely the only way to share the remaining value was to sell the archive.

I don't think ITV handled the issue with GSB particularly well. Much of the M&M archive would have suited ITV4.
JA
JAS84
Sky were equally at fault. They were refusing to give ITV3 an EPG number. There's no reason ITV3 and Plus couldn't have co-existed, since nothing at all immediately carried over and the old episodes of the soaps have not returned to this day.
NW
nwtv2003
JAS84 posted:
Sky were equally at fault. They were refusing to give ITV3 an EPG number. There's no reason ITV3 and Plus couldn't have co-existed, since nothing at all immediately carried over and the old episodes of the soaps have not returned to this day.


By the time Plus closed for most of the day it was known as Crime Plus, (I think it ran from 12pm to 2am or so) all the soaps had been moved to the mornings and there was virtually no comedy on the station at all. I think it could have co-existed for a while, but I think it would have closed like M&M anyway.
IN
Interceptor
I honestly cannot believe anybody has even dignified this thread with a response.
GE
thegeek Founding member
I'm pleasantly surprised that it's had some interesting (albeit mostly off-topic) discussion. But yes, you're right.

12 days later

TV
The TV-Fan
When Granada and Carlton performed take overs (which caused the archives of the other ITV regional stations to become part of them) and then merged into ITV Plc, it caused the downfall of regional identity/regional symbols, the introduction of boring idents, the end of an proper ITV Night Time (you know the one that had no ITV Nightscreen).
IS
Inspector Sands
When Granada and Carlton performed take overs (which caused the archives of the other ITV regional stations to become part of them) and then merged into ITV Plc, it caused the downfall of regional identity/regional symbols, the introduction of boring idents, the end of an proper ITV Night Time (you know the one that had no ITV Nightscreen).

What's that got to do with their archives?

I think TheGeek spoke too soon...

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