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90mins New show for Scottish Side only. (July 2013)

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p_c_u_k
I'm assuming they've decided to use the music as they'll probably continue to take the Scotland Tonight head-to-head debates - as they did in 2013. The debate shows aren't branded as STV and IIRC Scotland Tonight almost 'opted in' and out of the previous show. My thoughts on the show - it had the political substance required but it desperately needs some 'TV' in there. It's missing the personality of Scotland Tonight.


Only occurred to me afterwards but I think you're probably right about the music. Thing is, for media watchers it seems half-hearted. And let's face it, many of the people interested in this show will be people in the media and politicians who travel the country.

I agree also that it needs a bit of 'TV'. Thing is though, is this how most of the ITV political shows operate around the country? Scotland Tonight is an exception as STV has thrown resources into it and tried to make it something that has appeal beyond those traditionally interested in politics. But this new show has come about as a box-ticking exercise to keep Ofcom happy, so it's never going to have the same attention.

It is a perfectly efficient, good show, but Scotland Tonight changed the game when it came about, even making Newsnight Scotland look dated at times.
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It a decent show but dull as dish water...
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SNP MSP was on last night programme saying its a welcome boost for the viewers.

IF STV had never introduced Scotland Tonight would ITV been focused to broadcast a nearly daily political programme aswell?
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scottishtv Founding member
It's missing the personality of Scotland Tonight.

I'd argue that's a good thing. The STV programme always seems like it's trying too hard to be something it's not - forced 'head to head' nightly discussions with low rent analysts, the white paper debate was cringey with Rona Dougall's presenting rather stilted and cheesy cutaways to Bernard Ponsonby for 'instant analysis'. Plus, the bright red set with cube chairs, and screechy title music don't help either.

This Border programme was a bit more straight and serious, but does the job. My worry is keeping up the content levels given they already covered quite a bit in just one programme. Also, getting by without any studio at all might become a struggle. I'm a bit surprised the parliament is letting them use committee rooms and lobby areas for the whole programme. Peter seems like a good presenter and interviewer though - both those fronting the shows on the Beeb and STV do tend to like the sound of their own voices a bit.
PC
p_c_u_k
It's missing the personality of Scotland Tonight.

I'd argue that's a good thing. The STV programme always seems like it's trying too hard to be something it's not - forced 'head to head' nightly discussions with low rent analysts, the white paper debate was cringey with Rona Dougall's presenting rather stilted and cheesy cutaways to Bernard Ponsonby for 'instant analysis'. Plus, the bright red set with cube chairs, and screechy title music don't help either.

This Border programme was a bit more straight and serious, but does the job. My worry is keeping up the content levels given they already covered quite a bit in just one programme. Also, getting by without any studio at all might become a struggle. I'm a bit surprised the parliament is letting them use committee rooms and lobby areas for the whole programme. Peter seems like a good presenter and interviewer though - both those fronting the shows on the Beeb and STV do tend to like the sound of their own voices a bit.


It's all about taste. What I would say is Scotland Tonight is more likely to attract an audience less involved in politics and politicians as well as the usual people who like this kind of programming, whereas I can only see Representing Border preaching to the converted.
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Interestingly Border Scotland also has a Simply Gardening filler at 2335 on Tuesdays until rejoining the network schedule at 2350 - is that an ITV Wales show?

Also used frequently by ITV Channel in the early hours of the morning. It was a Carlton production.

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http://news.stv.tv/politics/263966-scotland-tonight-nicola-sturgeon-and-johann-lamont-to-debate-referendum/

I take it Scottish Border will take this?
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Gary McEwan
http://news.stv.tv/politics/263966-scotland-tonight-nicola-sturgeon-and-johann-lamont-to-debate-referendum/

I take it Scottish Border will take this?


Probably Border Scotland on Freeview only...

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A border taking the Scotland Tonight special tomorrow?

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tweedledum
I noticed on this weeks edition of Border Life, Fiona Armstrong was wearing an old ITV Border jacket!

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