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US TV Choppers Crash Covering Car Chase

Four killed in accident (July 2007)

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JR
jrothwell97
This is something that I find quite sick:

BBC News posted:
Within moments of the collision, other TV news helicopters were broadcasting pictures of the burning wreckage.


so they didn't bother to land and see if they could help?

It's rather Diana-esque to me.

Just out of interest, when exactly did this incident occur, local time?
ST
STV Today
channel2tv posted:
Anne MacKenzie Fan posted:
Gallunach posted:
channel2tv posted:
As a student journalist in the Phoenix area, my condolences are with the news teams of the two TV stations, and I fully believe the suspect of the stolen vehicle that was in the police chase needs to be held responsible for the deaths of those 4 fine news industry workers.


i have no problem with "joyriders" or "stolen car suspects" crashing the car and killing themselves but to blame them for this is just plain mad ,

They didn't force any of the news crews to follow them


I understand that the British users on this forum probably don't understand the US system of news, so I am not going to erupt into anger here, as I did on another forum.

The thing is, because of this criminal, 4 people died. Whether he directly caused it or not is another story. His actions did make someone die. I am screaming for blood, as others are doing at the same time.

I would have to agree with you Gallunach, the news media take decisions to cover stories and on this occasion they decided to use choppers. If something happens in the sky how can that be down to someone (admittedly no angel) stealing a car on the ground.


Not sure who you are quoting channel2tv - but I am in North East Scotland and I never said the above!!
JR
jrothwell97
Anne MacKenzie Fan posted:
channel2tv posted:
Anne MacKenzie Fan posted:
Gallunach posted:
channel2tv posted:
As a student journalist in the Phoenix area, my condolences are with the news teams of the two TV stations, and I fully believe the suspect of the stolen vehicle that was in the police chase needs to be held responsible for the deaths of those 4 fine news industry workers.


i have no problem with "joyriders" or "stolen car suspects" crashing the car and killing themselves but to blame them for this is just plain mad ,

They didn't force any of the news crews to follow them


I understand that the British users on this forum probably don't understand the US system of news, so I am not going to erupt into anger here, as I did on another forum.

The thing is, because of this criminal, 4 people died. Whether he directly caused it or not is another story. His actions did make someone die. I am screaming for blood, as others are doing at the same time.

I would have to agree with you Gallunach, the news media take decisions to cover stories and on this occasion they decided to use choppers. If something happens in the sky how can that be down to someone (admittedly no angel) stealing a car on the ground.


Not sure who you are quoting channel2tv - but I am in North East Scotland and I never said the above!!


AFAIK it was an error with the BBCode. Here is what should be the corrected quotations.

channel2tv posted:
Anne MacKenzie Fan posted:
Gallunach posted:
channel2tv posted:
As a student journalist in the Phoenix area, my condolences are with the news teams of the two TV stations, and I fully believe the suspect of the stolen vehicle that was in the police chase needs to be held responsible for the deaths of those 4 fine news industry workers.


i have no problem with "joyriders" or "stolen car suspects" crashing the car and killing themselves but to blame them for this is just plain mad ,

They didn't force any of the news crews to follow them


I would have to agree with you Gallunach, the news media take decisions to cover stories and on this occasion they decided to use choppers. If something happens in the sky how can that be down to someone (admittedly no angel) stealing a car on the ground.



I understand that the British users on this forum probably don't understand the US system of news, so I am not going to erupt into anger here, as I did on another forum.

The thing is, because of this criminal, 4 people died. Whether he directly caused it or not is another story. His actions did make someone die. I am screaming for blood, as others are doing at the same time.
WW
WW Update
channel2tv posted:
Shocked I always thought you were English. I never thought you were American!


Actually, I'm a Slovenian-American currently living in the old country. Are you a student at the Cronkite School, channel2tv? I graduated there.
PH
phoenixrises
WW Update posted:
channel2tv posted:
Shocked I always thought you were English. I never thought you were American!


Actually, I'm a Slovenian-American currently living in the old country. Are you a student at the Cronkite School, channel2tv? I graduated there.


I am applying to get in there soon, yea.
MA
Markymark
jrothwell97 posted:
This is something that I find quite sick:

BBC News posted:
Within moments of the collision, other TV news helicopters were broadcasting pictures of the burning wreckage.


so they didn't bother to land and see if they could help?


Not easy to land in all that smoke:-

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=882_1185574862

The ABC Ch 15 output at the moment of impact is here:-

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=da6_1185572136
WW
WW Update
Here's last night's news from KSAZ in Phoenix, with comprehensive coverage of the tragedy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tczkL1AmF8U
CW
Charlie Wells Moderator
As mentioned previously I think it would be far safer if the news networks obtained a feed from a central source. In theory it could be done via be a secondary (police) helicopter which is up there to provide all the TV networks with coverage.

Unfortunately with multiple helicopters providing to many networks I imagine it creates quite a bit of congestion and it was only really a matter of time before something like this happened.

I don't think it's fair though that the man could be charged with the death of those four people. As unless he fired a gun at the helicopters and shot them down it was the responsibility of the pilot(s). May a chance of someone to review how TV networks cover car chases.
ST
STV Today
Charlie Wells posted:
As mentioned previously I think it would be far safer if the news networks obtained a feed from a central source. In theory it could be done via be a secondary (police) helicopter which is up there to provide all the TV networks with coverage.

Unfortunately with multiple helicopters providing to many networks I imagine it creates quite a bit of congestion and it was only really a matter of time before something like this happened.

I don't think it's fair though that the man could be charged with the death of those four people. As unless he fired a gun at the helicopters and shot them down it was the responsibility of the pilot(s). May a chance of someone to review how TV networks cover car chases.


My thoughts entirely. It is extremely sad news and let us only hope lessons can be learned.
PH
phoenixrises
Charlie Wells posted:
As mentioned previously I think it would be far safer if the news networks obtained a feed from a central source. In theory it could be done via be a secondary (police) helicopter which is up there to provide all the TV networks with coverage.

Unfortunately with multiple helicopters providing to many networks I imagine it creates quite a bit of congestion and it was only really a matter of time before something like this happened.

I don't think it's fair though that the man could be charged with the death of those four people. As unless he fired a gun at the helicopters and shot them down it was the responsibility of the pilot(s). May a chance of someone to review how TV networks cover car chases.


Charles, I must respectfully disagree completely with what you said. This idiot had the nerves to car-jack not once, but twice, and now, because of what he did, 4 people died. Although he did not cause them directly, his actions and his decisions brought those 2 choppers down.
:-(
A former member
I do feel sorry for those 4 people, but them crashing is just bad luck. I think what your trying to say is guilt by association - which i dont think is an offence is it?

For me, doing live coverage of car chases is terrible, thats not news - ironically, this case has turned out to be headline news.
PH
phoenixrises
onetrickpony posted:
I do feel sorry for those 4 people, but them crashing is just bad luck. I think what your trying to say is guilt by association - which i dont think is an offence is it?

For me, doing live coverage of car chases is terrible, thats not news - ironically, this case has turned out to be headline news.


It's called Negligent Homicide. Because of this guy's presence and his actions, someone was affected, and their lives are now gone.

Now, I may be biased, as I am a Student Journalist in the area, but I believe the guy needs to be charged with these 4 men's death.

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