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The Scottish Six raises it head again

(November 2015)

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A former member
Every times near an election this comes an knocking.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/nov/13/bbc-scotland-bosses-lobby-for-scottish-six-news-programme
Quote:
BBC executives are pressing for the corporation to commission a flagship “Scottish Six” news programme to help answer growing complaints about its weak coverage of Scottish affairs, the Guardian has learned.

Executives in BBC Scotland are expected to lobby Tony Hall, the corporation’s director general, to agree to the proposal when he comes to Glasgow next week to attend a meeting of its governing body, the BBC Trust, which will also be briefed on the plan.

They want Hall to authorise a significant expansion of its news and programme-making budget from about £35m to £100m a year when he finalises the BBC’s proposals for charter renewal next year, including funding a third national radio service for Scotland.

BBC Scotland executives are thought to be focusing on these proposals after being forced to shelve far more ambitious plans to add an extra digital television channel and new online programming in the wake of swingeing spending cuts.


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Scottish executives argue the BBC has to invest substantially more in the UK’s nations and regions to allow the corporation to keep pace with accelerating devolution, by decentralising its programme-making and decision-making.

The case for a “Scottish Six” to replace the UK network Six O’Clock News on BBC1 has been championed since the 1990s by former first minister Alex Salmond, but was heavily resisted until now on spending and journalistic grounds.

The proposal, which is backed by BBC Scotland controller Ken MacQuarrie, who led the formal investigation into Jeremy Clarkson’s assault of a Top Gear producer, would involve mixing increased and improved Scottish news with the BBC’s UK news and global coverage in an hour-long programme.

Sources said Scottish correspondents working as foreign correspondents overseas or as specialists in London could be asked to contribute specifically to the new programme.

The BBC Trust refused to discuss the agenda for next week’s meeting in Glasgow, but a spokesperson said: “The trust has been consulting widely on BBC charter review over the past few months and trustees will, as you’d expect, be talking to the BBC executive, BBC Scotland management and stakeholders on a range of topics related to this.”

The corporation came under fresh pressure from Nicola Sturgeon, the first minister, to increase spending and output in August, when she told the Guardian International TV festival in Edinburgh that Scottish viewers felt “frustration” at the quality and scope of its output in Scotland.

That antipathy spilled over into an angry demonstration by pro-independence activists outside BBC Scotland’s Glasgow headquarters in September, and a long-running feud between Salmond and the BBC’s then political editor Nick Robinson; Sturgeon had to intervene after one BBC Scotland correspondent, James Cook, was vilified by nationalists over his reporting of the so-called Frenchgate memo leak.

But the plan is encountering substantial resistance from BBC executives in London, who are wrestling with heavy budget cuts of around £700m, and continuing demands from rivals and the UK government to trim output and find further efficiencies.

Sources with knowledge of the discussions said extra funds for news and current affairs were being channelled towards other projects, including a beefed up Korean service. One source said the proposal “was met with laughter” by executives in London.

But BBC officials have confirmed that several proposals for a Scottish Six type programme are being debated and are likely to be finalised in early 2016 after Gary Smith, BBC Scotland’s new head of news and current affairs, takes up his post in January.

Options include a direct replacement for the BBC1 Six O’Clock news or a standalone programme which could air on BBC2 Scotland in the early evening. The BBC’s current regional news programme Reporting Scotland on BBC1 would be heavily cut back.

The Scottish Six proposal was broadly backed by Allan Little, the former BBC correspondent who covered the recent Iraq wars, Africa, Paris and the Scottish independence referendum, when he gave an annual lecture in honour of former Guardian editor and BBC Scotland controller Alastair Hetherington at Stirling university on Wednesday evening.

Little told the audience he had been tentatively approached about anchoring a Scottish Six some 15 years ago. “It was all so vague back then but it was definitely in the air,” Little said. “But there’s definitely an argument for it, and I think that argument is becoming harder and harder to answer.”

If there is to be a Scottish Six, he said its editors had to look carefully at how it was implemented, and how it would gather and share material from the UK network and content from overseas. It is thought one key issue for the BBC is how its non-BBC Scotland specialist journalists could service two separate news programmes being aired at similar times, particularly during live stories.

“I’m more worried about its implementation than in its principle. I think its principle is very clear and I think, hopefully, we will see movement in that direction,” Little said.



CI
cityprod
Instead of dismissing this, how about turning this into an idea that already happens overseas, but has never happened here. Make the "Six" into a combined national/regional news programme, hosted from the regions themselves. If the BBC really wanted to be distinctive, they'd do the same to the 10 as well. That would really put the wind up ITV.
CH
chris
Instead of dismissing this, how about turning this into an idea that already happens overseas, but has never happened here. Make the "Six" into a combined national/regional news programme, hosted from the regions themselves. If the BBC really wanted to be distinctive, they'd do the same to the 10 as well. That would really put the wind up ITV.


I don't see how that would be favourable? It would cost a lot of money and you couldn't have correspondents live from location. There are also a lot of people who are interested in national/international news but not regional and vice versa. I think it would actually see ITV's ratings improve.
HO
House
I can't be the only one who doesn't understand the logic behind creating a Scottish variant of a mostly national and international evening news bulletin, only to heavily cut the budget of the existing Scottish evening news programme?

Might a better solution be to increase Reporting Scotland's budget a little to allow better coverage within Scotland, and swap RS and the Six in the schedules to give Scottish news a priority? The benefit being that the second edition of the Six would avoid the overlap issues noted in the story above, but could be geared towards a slightly more Scottish agenda (even if that just means removing English-only stories of little interest to Scottish viewers and replacing them with other UK/international news already produced for other services)? I can't imagine the costs involved in reproducing mostly the same broadcast would be that high, and it would be a boost to the amount of actual news featured on the BBC News Channel (even if it meant repeating stories). Of course you then have the BBC competing with STV, which would just be horrific because after all everyone would rather the BBC had never existed. But you seemingly can't please anyone.

Alternatively could BBC Scotland simply opt out of the Six at 18:15, so that the first half hour of news featured the most important UK, Scottish and International stories, and the News Channel reproduce the back 15 minutes of the Six at either 18:30 or 18:45 for Scotland to opt back in and air the full quota of national and international news? Again that shouldn't cost any more (unless Reporting Scotland/BBC Scotland's budget is increased to enable better reporting), but would undermine any sense that the Scottish news agenda is a secondary consideration within BBC Scotland. The same logic could be deployed in Wales and Northern Ireland - there's no reason the nations and English reasons need to have the exact same schedule between 18:00 and 19:00.

Can the BBC produce better coverage of Scotland? Possibly. Is Scotland hard done by compared to the North of England, or many other parts of the Union? Probably not. At some point these continually voiced demands for preferential treatment are going to have to accept the realities that organisations like the BBC are under increasing financial constraints, and pragmatism will have to win over idealism sooner or later.
CW
Charlie Wells Moderator
I think the easiest option would be to essentially extend Reporting Scotland to an hour bulletin, with at least 15 minutes of national & international news. Any live interviews on national/international items could be done in the second half of the programme, so wouldn't clash with the main national news (and their live interviews).

I don't think having a standalone programme on BBC2 is a practical or cost-effective option. Worth noting a similar programme as such already exists in the form of 'Scotland 2015' which is on at 10:30pm (with Newsnight being shifted to 11pm). Also if Scotland was given it's own 'Scottish Six' you could almost guarantee the Welsh would then demand their own 'Welsh Six'.
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A former member
I saw one thing Reporting scotland does NOT need any more money, Just look at STV which has had to cut costs and still provide a better level of service.
JU
thejules
Wouldn't such a move also prompt STV to want their own news hour at 6 with input from STV News & ITN's ITV News teams?
GM
Gary McEwan
Wouldn't such a move also prompt STV to want their own news hour at 6 with input from STV News & ITN's ITV News teams?


It was nothing to do with ITV News, but effectively STV and ITN were thinking of doing their own Scottish Six a few years ago, but the Tories put it to bed.

They even did a pilot if I recall correctly..
BR
Brekkie
Surely 10pm would be much more cost effective and viewer friendly, meaning BBC Scotland don't have to make an hour long bulletin and viewers don't have to sit through it.
RI
Rijowhi
Instead of dismissing this, how about turning this into an idea that already happens overseas, but has never happened here. Make the "Six" into a combined national/regional news programme, hosted from the regions themselves. If the BBC really wanted to be distinctive, they'd do the same to the 10 as well. That would really put the wind up ITV.


Indeed, I'm surprised this hasn't happened here too. In my opinion this is what ITV could have done when they went Pan-Regional in 2009, allowing extra time for more Regional reports (if required) to have been covered within the hour while still covering the National/International News. After all it works on Radio! It could even potentially save money for the BBC should they decide to go ahead with the proposal as surely these types of programmes would be Pan-Regional/Government Regional (sub-Regional would surely be far too expensive?). Though of course those costs would probably be at least evened out by the fact there would be a different programme for every Pan-Region. I'd like the BBC to do this at 10pm too and feel ITV could look at doing the same too.
JU
thejules
How is STV News perceived in Scotland compared to the BBC? I watched the STV independence referendum results show, simulcast on ITV and though it included input from ITN overall the STV presentation was incredibly dull and cheap. The sooner ITV buys STV the better IMO.
DO
dosxuk
The sooner ITV buys STV the better IMO.


Let me guess, so that ITN can take over the news provision?

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